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Real talk here guys: None of the admin pity Glom and we aren't really all that interested in player politics or alliances beyond what each god's RP dictates (ie Zvoltz would be against allying with Gaudi but would be cool with Mag while Jadice and Mysrai might be bros and want to hang out, but Jadice would not be okay buddying up to Mag).I think some of you are misconstruing singular events or statements to fit some narrative of admin bias that doesn't actually exist. In fact, most admin err on the side of not even speaking up about anything political because inevitably someone comes to the forums to complain that we are all evil meddling people with some hidden agenda and as a group we only seek the ruin of <org name here>. I realize that as players, you do not have the benefit of seeing what happens behind the scenes, but outside of godly RP in our organizations, most of us spend time doing projects that help out orgs that are not the ones we patron, including the "enemy" org. I've build a decent amount of things for Gaudi and run a few events for them. Mag admins have done work for Hallifax. Serenwilde admins help out on stuff for Mag.If there was an OOC admin initiative to support one org, Estarra or another administrator would just come out and say that there was. We aren't up to anything here, except to make the game a better experience for every player.
Again.. I tried. I tried to talk to the Demon Lords, I've still been trying to talk to any of the Demon Lords (well, not Gorg or Ash, they are useless).I've gotten nothing, at all. Literally nothing.So yes, it has easily felt like getting hit in the face with a stick, being told I can't do anything about it, and then being hit by a bigger stick because I already got hit with a stick.I have no idea what effort Celest put into it, but you also have no idea what effort I have put into this. I've tried to make peace/ally Glomdoring since IC year 320 (almost 100 years ago, that's what, 4 years?), I've known about the Mark issue, I've been told no, I can't do anything about it, I've tried talking to Demon Lords, no response. What more do you want? I've put in the effort, I've been told no.Editted to add: Oh yeah, and then being completely insulted when going to talk to Lisaera, and being shoved in the face with the Mark business. What a joke that was, and still is.
In this case, what would have had the greatest chance of success would have been Magnagora and Glomdoring working together.
It's very convenient for talk of teamwork when Glomdoring doesn't even allow free travel to non-enemies.
Gaudiguchians, Celestians, and Hallifaxians all
have travel rights actually (though Gaudiguch's are "unofficial").
Hard to make a good point with inaccurate information.
Kraai said:I think a lot of this could be straightened out with people opening up a different way in RP - that means being susceptible to change as well so there is an opportunity able to be created because as someone new, reading this and watching interactions it looks like a lot of miscommunication.
I think a lot of this could be straightened out with people opening up a different way in RP - that means being susceptible to change as well so there is an opportunity able to be created because as someone new, reading this and watching interactions it looks like a lot of miscommunication.
Also I admit, I love how Xenthos has been trying to 'force' people from other cities to RP towards the mindset he is insisting on, or else will forever sabotage any form of political relations. I especially find it interesting how he not only has been insisting on this Brand's removal for years now, but has gone to the point of telling players to 'play a certain way' which he believes will get him the results he wants (This being "Celest tried harder, why dont you!").Additionally, no, The Celest delegation tried several times with maeve and -got no where-, and then sought other means. Additionally, the brand was placed by Nifilhema, with the powers of Nil and Celestia and is basically the same type of brand that was once placed on Raziela with the same circumstances (That being the magics that only the one whom placed it can remove it).Quite Frankly, for the all the years of suffering Raziela had to do under the brand, and then the cities had to suffer from the, quite frankly bugged and unfair advantages of the hai'gloh which saw them lose millions of powers, I find it completely warrants to have Maeve in the state she is and hopefully to continue to be so.
What's I'm seeing in all this is a clear story of Silvanus apparently working his rump off to try to get the Mark removed, and no matter what he does, it isn't enough unless it's actually done. He's really sort of screwed unless the admin take pity on him.On the other hand, Celest has done roughly the same thing and Xenthos gives them a bye. What's the difference between the two? Has Xenthos seen Silvanus "not doing anything" at all? Can anyone really prove that Silvanus hasn't done everything he could?In all the time I've played since the Mark was put on Maeve, I don't believe I've ever heard anything from a leader in Celest on plans to try and remove it. Ever. That's not to say people didn't try, but I've never heard about them trying. On the other hand, I've heard from quite a few people in Mag about trying to do it. I've also personally seen Xenthos work against Magnagora in various ways to try and find leverage to get them to "remove the brand", despite the fact that they had no real power to do so. I've never heard of him doing the same to Celest.
Just out of curiosity, what do you do when you see Magnagorans in Faethorn?
Everiine is a man, and is very manly. This MAN before you is so manly you might as well just gender bend right now, cause he's the manliest man that you ever did see. His manly shape has spurned many women and girlyer men to boughs of fainting. He stands before you in a manly manerific typical man-like outfit which is covered in his manly motto: "I am a man!"Daraius said: You gotta risk it for the biscuit.Pony power all the way, yo. The more Brontaurs the better.
Good Lord, do you all hear yourselves? From what it looks like, Silvanus went about trying to get the brand removed in a logical way in accordance with appropriate RP. So what if no one saw it? And yes, from a character perspective, we can "know" that Silvanus did "nothing". But for crying out loud, at least acknowledge from a player perspective that he worked hard trying to oblige the demands to remove the brand, and nothing came from it. Acknowledge that the player worked hard in their own way, even though it led to jack squat.Or stick to your stupid narrative that Celest did a bunch of work (which, really, they didn't) and Magnagora did nothing and use it to justify whatever.Silvanus, thank you for going out of your way in secret to try to find a solution. I appreciate knowing that this is something you dedicated a lot of time to. Ev has no clue, many no other character has any clue. But player to player, thanks for trying.