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  • EstarraEstarra Administrator, Moderator Posts: 880 Creator
    Yeah, I would like to say there is nothing apparently detrimental to the threads that should raise alarms. You remove them because you find them aesthetically displeasing (or are paranoid which is fair enough).
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  • StratasStratas Member Posts: 376 Mythical
    I'm finding this to be a perfectly pleasant daily quest so far. I also do want to say, I've always found that daily quests like these, story related or not, always delight me (even if they sometimes get aggravating in execution for so long). So for the last few months, having back to back daily quests has made me really happy. They're obviously building to a story, and having something in that regard is good - keeps me interested in that year's arc, and able to catch up easier if I miss something. It's a bit of a bummer knowing OOCly that whatever's happening won't have any sort of resolution for a month, but still. So thanks to @Estarra and the other admin for doing things like this.
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  • BairlochBairloch Member Posts: 79 Capable
    Bit of a typo in the OOC message that comes after beating the tangle.

    [OOC]: You given beaten back enough threads to qualify for the daily quest
    today! Come back tomorrow to complete the quest again! See QUESTEVENT for your
    quest status for July.

  • MoiMoi Member Posts: 1,194 Transcendent
    Typo it ingame.
  • LuceLuce Fox Populi Member Posts: 2,475 Transcendent
    Looks like they act like cows/sheep. Paine chance when you enter to stall balance. Wonder if the butcher harness works on them...
  • EveriineEveriine Wise Old Swordsbird / Brontaur Three Lakes, WIMember Posts: 2,848 Transcendent
    The hubs also explode and try to kill you when you kill them, don't they?
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  • EnyaEnya Member Posts: 212 Adept
    They explode as they die, yes. They deal ~8.5k damage or so against middling resists, so don't be in a room with one that's going down if you can't survive that. With a few buffs I survive it pretty okay, with about 1k hp left. Using something like puppy collection makes it very survivable.
  • KagatoKagato Auckland, New ZealandMember Posts: 1,245 Mythical
    As a celestine with full buffs and numen active, I took around 5500 damage from an explosion.
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  • EnyaEnya Member Posts: 212 Adept
    This promotion is a lot better now that it isn't neigh-permanently infesting orgs.
  • TridemonTridemon Member Posts: 624 Fabled
    I officially hate every part of this. ESPECIALLY the smarmy little encouragements toward teamwork. 
    I'm Lucidian. If I don't get pedantic every so often, I might explode.
  • VersaleanVersalean Member Posts: 1,022 Transcendent
    Tridemon said:
    I officially hate every part of this. ESPECIALLY the smarmy little encouragements toward teamwork. 
    That isn't particularly constructive.
  • TridemonTridemon Member Posts: 624 Fabled
    Versalean said:
    Tridemon said:
    I officially hate every part of this. ESPECIALLY the smarmy little encouragements toward teamwork. 
    That isn't particularly constructive.
    It's demesne breaking. On multiple demesnes. It's incredibly slow. It's boring. There are avenues that you would be able to attack on a demesne that you can't with the threads. It can span hundreds of rooms. They can APPARENTLY spread into places that aren't always open. There's no way to prevent the threads from moving back into a room you just cleared. So essentially, it's a giant demesne where you can't break the center, can't kill the mage, and the mage gets to expand in any direction at random without limit.
    I'm Lucidian. If I don't get pedantic every so often, I might explode.
  • VersaleanVersalean Member Posts: 1,022 Transcendent
    Tridemon said:
    Versalean said:
    Tridemon said:
    I officially hate every part of this. ESPECIALLY the smarmy little encouragements toward teamwork. 
    That isn't particularly constructive.
    It's demesne breaking. On multiple demesnes. It's incredibly slow. It's boring. There are avenues that you would be able to attack on a demesne that you can't with the threads. It can span hundreds of rooms. They can APPARENTLY spread into places that aren't always open. There's no way to prevent the threads from moving back into a room you just cleared. So essentially, it's a giant demesne where you can't break the center, can't kill the mage, and the mage gets to expand in any direction at random without limit.
    That is particularly constructive! :)
  • ValariaValaria Member Posts: 45 Apprentice
    Tridemon said:
    Versalean said:
    Tridemon said:
    I officially hate every part of this. ESPECIALLY the smarmy little encouragements toward teamwork. 
    That isn't particularly constructive.
    It's demesne breaking. On multiple demesnes. It's incredibly slow. It's boring. There are avenues that you would be able to attack on a demesne that you can't with the threads. It can span hundreds of rooms. They can APPARENTLY spread into places that aren't always open. There's no way to prevent the threads from moving back into a room you just cleared. So essentially, it's a giant demesne where you can't break the center, can't kill the mage, and the mage gets to expand in any direction at random without limit.
    i would love to meet this mage to teach me how to spread the demesne throughout the basin. plz call me, anonymous mage?
  • KalnidKalnid Member Posts: 413 Fabled
    I think my only real remaining issue is that having two sinker nets that're in contact with each other makes it damn near impossible to tell which threads belong to which, which makes finding endpoints hard. Maybe give each sinker a random flavor out of four which all its threads inherit? Wouldn't eliminate the problem entirely, but would cut it down a lot.
  • ValariaValaria Member Posts: 45 Apprentice
    edited July 10
    Kalnid said:
    I think my only real remaining issue is that having two sinker nets that're in contact with each other makes it damn near impossible to tell which threads belong to which, which makes finding endpoints hard. Maybe give each sinker a random flavor out of four which all its threads inherit? Wouldn't eliminate the problem entirely, but would cut it down a lot.
    threads act similar to demense, kalnid. you have to find edge. but if there is no edge, then the rest of rooms of threads are vulenerable. so for example, if threads happen to come to a full circle, then every single room is vulernable unless it found a edge room to spread to. basically, it's a spreading demesne
  • MoiMoi Member Posts: 1,194 Transcendent
    It doesn't work that way if you have two melds. Consider the following area:
    [a]-[a]-[a]-[a]-[a]
    | | | | |
    [a]-[A] [a] [b]-[a]
    | \ / |
    [a]-[a] [b] [a]-[a]
    | / \ |
    [a]-[b] [B] [b]-[b]
    | | | | |
    [a]-[b]-[b]-[b]-[b]
    ...where A and B are sinkers; a are threads spread by A and b are threads spread by B.

    You can break [-2, 2] (top left) in accordance with the principle you describe, but you can't break [2, 2] (top right) despite both looking outwardly identical. This is because unlike top left, top right is a line rather than a loop, even if it looks like a line. You can do the same thing with an actual meld, but there you can PERCEIVE to see which room belongs to which melder. Here, you just have to guess.

  • TylwythTylwyth Member Posts: 1,583 Mythical
    Estarra said:
    Yeah, I would like to say there is nothing apparently detrimental to the threads that should raise alarms. You remove them because you find them aesthetically displeasing (or are paranoid which is fair enough).
    Or cuz you can smell they are "tainted"...

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