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says, "How do I get the Queen to fly me to the top of the Mountain?"

SteingrimSteingrim
edited February 2015 in Common Grounds

<redacted> says, "How do I get the Queen to fly me to the
top of

the Mountain?"

 

 

[Note: Thanks to the amazing Oneiroi who swooped in.]

 

So just yesterday I made a novice to check the experience
someone who was trying to be an Illuminati would face. When you just read
CGHELP scrolls you’re less likely to catch things then when you actually follow
the scrolls and refuse to do anything but follow what the scrolls say.

 

So I ran into this problem in the tutorial: What I think happened
was that I was on autopilot and just greeting her before I handed the crystal ball to the ant queen. At this point the quest got flaky and I was finally able
to get the quest to work by greeting ant253.

 

Greet queen didn’t seem to work. I’m assuming the QUEEN and
ANT are acting up.

 

A day later I see this:

 

14) 2015/02/23
04:29:47 - <redacted>: "How do I get the Queen to fly me to the top
of the Mountain?"

15) 2015/02/23 04:32:42 - Steingrim: "Greet her, and
then you'll have the option of handing her the

crystal ball."

 

Figuring it might be the same thing I tried to talk them through
it. We tried everything I could think of, including him going back and killing another
hog and getting another crystal ball. Nothing worked, not even me rolling up a
newbie, doing the quest myself and having him follow.

 

I don’t know how to say this other than this tutorial is hell.
I say that because you can’t even die to get out of it. You’re just stuck.

 

At the very least is seems the quest needs something like
repeatable stages.

 

Stage 1: Before you enter Newton

Stage 2: Newton before you enter Lolliprin.

Stage 3: Before you get to Smoke Mountain.

Stage 4: Before you leave Smoke Mountain to kill the shadow.

 

Then implement something like TUTORIAL REBOOT and let new
players be able to reset the stage they’re on.

 

I get this isn’t minor undertaking and someone is going to
have to track and rollback data exactly right or risk blowing up the code.

 

But here is why it is important this get fixed. Turns out
this was a newbie to Lusternia:

 

10) <redacted>: "Thanks for your help!"

11) <redacted>: "Ok, no problem. Is this type of
thing common?"

12) <redacted>: "// Yea. Ok, I figured this was
around for a while so was surprised it was buggy. I'll take your word for
it!"

13) <redacted>:

14) <redacted>: "// I played Imperian several years ago, as
a Predator. Was pretty fun, and my dnd group

recently broke up, so I needed a rp fix."

 

 

They were tired by the time they left the portal and then
logged. Hopefully, they’ll give us another shot and we just didn’t lose another
person over the tutorial.

 

Lastly, the Oneiroi was/were awesome, but it is a bit
troubling that it still took a while for them to track down the problem. I don’t
mean that as a slight to the Oneiroi, but it did seem the tools they had
available to them were lacking in some way or another.

 

Comments

  • SteingrimSteingrim
    edited February 2015
    Ignore this post.


    Typoed: HELP LESSONS doesn't include the No brainer lesson package offer.


    9.0.9 LESSONS

    Lessons are the currency of learning in Lusternia. In order to raise or improve
    your skills, you must spend lessons learning them.

    Gaining lessons can be done in these ways:

    1) Reaching a new experience level.

       Every time you gain a level, you will gain 5 lessons.
       Conversely, if you lose that level, you will lose 5 lessons.
       Simply gain the level back to get the lessons back.

    2) Obtaining Bound Credits and then converting them to lessons.
       See HELP CREDITS for information on obtaining Bound Credits.

    3) Bonus lessons. You will be gifted with 2.5 bonus lessons for every Credit
       you choose to convert to a Bound Credit, for the first 1000 Credits you
       thus convert, totalling a possible 2500 bonus lessons. This bonus will also
       be applied if you receive Bound Credits from a guild, city, or commune.
       See HELP CREDITS.

    4) We intermittently sell lesson packages from our website, at a heavy discount
       from the equivalent cost in credits. Further, all characters have access to
       an even more discounted starter lesson package, which can be purchased up to
       twice per character from http://www.lusternia.com/credits.

    See also LEARNING, LESSON POOLS.


  • TylwythTylwyth
    Um, the 4th thing is specifically talking about the no brainer package. It links right to it, too.
    FOR pposters who aren't steingrim:

    image
  • KaielKaiel
    No, the 4th thing is talking about lesson sales, which are a different thing entirely that only happen every once in a blue moon.
  • EnyalidaEnyalida Nasty Woman, Sockpuppeteer to the Gods
    edited February 2015
    Steingrim said:

    Typoed: HELP LESSONS doesn't include the No brainer lesson package offer.


    4) We intermittently sell lesson packages from our website, at a heavy discount
       from the equivalent cost in credits. Further, all characters have access to
       an even more discounted starter lesson package, which can be purchased up to
       twice per character from http://www.lusternia.com/credits.

    See also LEARNING, LESSON POOLS.



  • SteingrimSteingrim
    edited February 2015
    Enyalida said:

    Steingrim said:

    Typoed: HELP LESSONS doesn't include the No brainer lesson package offer.


    4) We intermittently sell lesson packages from our website, at a heavy discount
       from the equivalent cost in credits. Further, all characters have access to
       an even more discounted starter lesson package, which can be purchased up to
       twice per character from http://www.lusternia.com/credits.

    See also LEARNING, LESSON POOLS.



    /Quothe the Raven Never mind
  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.
    Steingrim said:

    Enyalida said:

    Steingrim said:

    Typoed: HELP LESSONS doesn't include the No brainer lesson package offer.


    4) We intermittently sell lesson packages from our website, at a heavy discount
       from the equivalent cost in credits. Further, all characters have access to
       an even more discounted starter lesson package, which can be purchased up to
       twice per character from http://www.lusternia.com/credits.

    See also LEARNING, LESSON POOLS.



    We intermittently sell lesson packages from our website...
    FURTHER
    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • SteingrimSteingrim
    Ah, you're all right, never mind. /Miss Emily Litella
  • TylwythTylwyth
    Kaiel said:

    No, the 4th thing is talking about lesson sales, which are a different thing entirely that only happen every once in a blue moon.

    FOR pposters who aren't steingrim:
    That's the first sentence, Read the second sentence.
    or just look at what the page acutally links too, first thing on the linked page IS the no brainer package.

    FOR pposters who aren't steingrim:

    image
  • SteingrimSteingrim
    Tylwyth said:

    Kaiel said:

    No, the 4th thing is talking about lesson sales, which are a different thing entirely that only happen every once in a blue moon.

    FOR pposters who aren't steingrim:
    Please make this your sig and I'll send you a credit.
  • TylwythTylwyth
    Like that?

    FOR pposters who aren't steingrim:

    image
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