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Re: Economy - Trade Revamp
That's kind of a poor example, there's little mechanical reason for people to need food, much less buy it. Most people that take cooking take it for aethertrading, they enjoy designing cooking, and giving away food/drinks to people. Mechanically it can make dust and that's it.Saran said:
There's kinda another question around like... people stocking multiple trades and how things will work. Which is like... how much do individuals covering multiple trades make it harder for other people to actually get into things?I think Isser ran into the issue a couple of weeks ago where he'd made a bunch of food and couldn't even give it away before it decayed, that's before you're even just trying to sell things where I've had a lot of fun with the apathy of bothering because everything I'd stock for the pixie is well and truly readily available.
Uzriel
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Re: Economy - Trade Revamp
It sounds like the fact that proficiencies replace lesson cost will lower the barrier to entry for tradeskills, especially for new players. If I'm reading it right it means we no longer have to toss up between investing in a trade or learning guild skills/etc, and now *everyone* can freely pick one. In theory this means the pool of 'active' players per trade should increase, and you no longer have to wait around for x person to wake up with their shears or other artifact, because everyone took the 'popular' tradeskill for the superitem/skill that came at trans. Newbies can join the crafting game without trading their bashing attack, or other miniskill, and I feel like that's a good thing.
Re: Economy - Trade Revamp
Lorecraft is going to feel pretty empty as is. If we're gutting Brewmeister of its flavour already, and those who are brewmeisters now can be lorecrafters instead, why not just gut it entirely?
-Lump all amalgamating skills in Brewmeister back into Lorecraft
-Anyone with Brewmeister gets Lorecraft for free
Cooks get to continue to make drinks, but will need to get prepared leaves and malts from lorecrafters still (unless that will come from agriculture instead?). Seems reasonable for maintaining trade reliance and not weirdly dividing food and drink trades entirely.
EDIT: Or hey, just do away with lorecraft at the same time too. There's no reason for a specialisation when there's no specialisations - just put all the remaining amalgamating skills back into alchemy, done.
-Lump all amalgamating skills in Brewmeister back into Lorecraft
-Anyone with Brewmeister gets Lorecraft for free
Cooks get to continue to make drinks, but will need to get prepared leaves and malts from lorecrafters still (unless that will come from agriculture instead?). Seems reasonable for maintaining trade reliance and not weirdly dividing food and drink trades entirely.
EDIT: Or hey, just do away with lorecraft at the same time too. There's no reason for a specialisation when there's no specialisations - just put all the remaining amalgamating skills back into alchemy, done.
Jolanthe
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Re: Economy Changes Overview
TBH all of these changes will make life hell for noobies or those who aren't already geared up with all the arties.
Mboagn
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Re: Economy - Trade Revamp
Orael said:I'm going to refer you to the overview post that explains why we're doing this.
Basically, the idea here is you're building proficiency to prevent grinding as much so you can sell things cheaper and more efficiently.
So the overarching vision is to:
- Have players grind to build proficiency that will reduce grinding in the long term. And then since proficiency will drop every year, players will have to continue to grind in order to grind less.
- Players will have to specialize in a game that does not have the population to support specialization.
- Instead of allowing all trades to aethertrade, no aethertrading will be allowed by any trades so aethergoop will essentially become a premium only currency.
- Remove all mechanical incentive for players to trans a trade skill, so that only players who are interested in the creative aspects of the game will fully trans trade skills, further increasing scarcity.
Sulwh
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Re: Shop Changes - Economy
Any plans to alter the way city shops work? Right now, they cost the city 5,000 gold per year in upkeep while open, and expansions are already highly expensive unless you've got a LOT of gold to work with. They're already too expensive for most newer players to deal with, just from taxes alone.
Re: Economy - Trade Revamp
I also am baffled about the removal of aethertrading. Why not create more aethertraders link to a specific trade that way everyone can earn goop? How would we earn goop now?
Edit: I do hope that you won't treat aethergoop as a premium only currency as you need to pay money for it.
Edit: I do hope that you won't treat aethergoop as a premium only currency as you need to pay money for it.
Lysandus
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Re: The resolve of a quest and the start of another
I will say, after this and @Avaris log, I am thankful for the chance to express where Terentia is at right now, re: the Light. It is also a nice chance to think about how the pantheon of Celest differ from one another! 
Terentia
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