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Re: Changes to Cloaking Gems and WHO lists

Really think players would best be served with being removed from who lists in manse rooms with privacy gems.

Kalliope

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Re: Changes to Cloaking Gems and WHO lists

Ealix said:

We have had a bit of discussion about Manse Privacy Gems and want to propose the following changes:

- Manse Privacy Gems will still show people on WHO but as (cloaked location) like I mentioned above. They will still stop people from being scried. Room names will not be visible via EWHO.
- We will change the line for TELLSOFF to be something other than 'x is not accepting tells right now.' while in a manse.
- We also want to turn your attention to CHANGELOG 1254 which has the DONOTDISTURB command. We can modify this so that tells will not bypass it, and have a generic message about being 'mindless' or possibility have the option for custom return messages (that may be a change later on down the track after the initial changes are all made) if you are in a manse with DONOTDISTURB.
- Says and Emotes will not be blocked by DND in a manse.

The only problem I see with this is the fact that people still seeing you online and in 'donotdisturb' rumors will fly about who else might be there too. If I'm being somewhat blunt. Some reasons people want to be invisible in manses is -because- they don't want people to know what they are up to in those manses and who they might be up to it with. Rumors can be really hurtful both IC and OOC to a player and character reputation and I feel like this might lead to a lot of unnecissary gossip about who is in a manse with who and when and why they're all on DONOTDISTURB.

Besides that I understand the concept. I simply feel that the potential for rumors and gossip that could turn into IC and OOC bias just isn't necissary.

Edit: Maybe increasing the time that the gem's activation lasts while in a manse might help circumvent this? If you can activate it multiple times a day anyway at ten minutes then I don't see why there would be any PVP issues (Considering timequakes and domoths only take 15ish minutes on average.)

Edit 2: Maybe make the privacy and cloaking gems have a stackable effect that while in the same location you disappear from the WHOLIST completely. Seems like it's just a lot of work to rework the donotdisturb and tellsoff systems when having the two artifacts have a 'leveled' effect when used together might be easier?

Iarae

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Re: Changes to Cloaking Gems and WHO lists

I really don't mind if people know I am around, as long as they see where.The changes seem reasonable.

Tylwyth

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Re: Changes to Cloaking Gems and WHO lists

I do sort of think maybe manse privacy should still work like current gem?

Kalliope

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Re: Changes to Cloaking Gems and WHO lists

I don't like that you are reducing EWHO by removing manse room names. Seeing the room name of a manse may seem like nothing, but it adds a bit of value to the rather expensive ewho mirror. Same with removing the plane info. While sure its easy to look up this info with most having mappers, not everyone could have such a map/skills to do so. Being able to easily tell that X room is on ASTRAL for example is great.

While showing everyone on WHO is fine, and probably for the best, Being able to tell that someone is 'Off-Plane' is rather valuable info, more so if you are planning something combat heavy. Personally, I would rather see it just show '(cloaked location)' for those with gems, regardless of plane. Perhaps I am in the minority, but a majority of the point of the Gem is to hide the room name from easy spying (perhaps I'm doing a multi-hour long quest I don't want people knowing about), not that I'm online somewhere in the game.