We tilt the Eternal Flame by 45 degrees pointing northeast.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
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We're going to get a dwarf morbidly intoxicated, stuff him so full of alcohol his belches are flammable. Then, we're going to give him a dhiarretic. THEN we're going to give him a candle and catapult him into Hallifax. FWOOSH.
We're going to get a dwarf morbidly intoxicating, stuff him so full of alcohol his belches are flammable. Then we're going to give him a candle and catapult him into Hallifax. FWOOSH.
We're going to get a dwarf morbidly intoxicated, stuff him so full of alcohol his belches are flammable. Then, we're going to give him a dhiarretic. THEN we're going to give him a candle and catapult him into Hallifax. FWOOSH.
You can keep your fancy schmancy giant lazers.
The hell you are.
Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
We shoot Gaudiguch, everyone else gets pissed at us and ganks us for a while, which may or may not continue past the end of this event. We shoot somewhere else, everyone gets super pissed at us, etc. etc. We tried to shoot ourselves to deny the weapon to Sciomore, but it wouldn't actually do it. This was the only scenario that even remotely resembled a win, and clearly that was only for a very, very narrow definition of 'win' >.>
"'Cause the fighting don't stop till I walk in." -Synkarin's Lament.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
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I mean....you weren't that damned. IIRC, the whole "build a giant lazer" came from the players in the first place. So it's more "damned if you build a giant lazer."
I also don't necessarily agree. Synkarin covertly passed messages to us saying to shoot Gaudiguch. It was more the fact that a few strong personalities on the board refused to shoot the weapon at Gaudiguch. (Myself included) I'd be super interested to find out what would have happened if we did shoot Gaudiguch. I am thinking with the amount that went into erasing Hallifax, that maybe Gaudiguch would have gotten that treatment, in which case it was probably the right idea to refuse (as we still would have permanently had that treat looming over us).
Congratulations! By order of Newt Blasterson, you've been named a Master of the Aetherways! 2015/12/09 23:54:29 - Pejat drained 2000000 power to raise Davos as a Vernal Ascendant. You use 80,000,000 of your divine essence. You gain BeauteousThought as a supernumerary power.
But you guys could have subjugated the Basin! "Do what we say or we'll Gaudi you" would've been awesome. So sad I can't make it online for this stuff. Only ten hours at work yesterday, today is looking to be a sixteen hour day -_-
1 - Do as Sciomore says and shoot Gaudiguch, see what happens. If something goes wrong, like let's say the lazer reflects back onto Hallifax, then it would have been on Sciomore and -not- the Hallifaxians. Then he would have had to fix the problem (and with the speed he made that lazer, I can imagine him building a new stronghold)
2 - Do nothing, ignore his threat, and watch as your city is destroyed. Now you are homeless -and- you have no backing you, as you lost the trust of one of the 6 most powerful beings currently standing.
Ya dun foozled up.
Edit: Frankly I feel several of the Halli players refusing to shoot was on the basis that they were certain something bad -would- happen to them from it, so they assumed "let's go down like heroes!". Bad move.
Arcanis, I'm not sure what the Mag god is like, but Halli never "had Sciomore's trust". Since showing up, His personality has literally been "Do as I say or die."
So hallifax did have two options: Blow Gaudi up, or allow the city to hit the ground, where it was theorized that [DATA REDACTED] and [DATA REDACTED] might blow up everything, and I don't mean just kill people. We explored other options, which took votes from the Board. Davos and I even went so far as to invoke the Sentinel Contract nuclear clause when the Board couldn't make a decision, taking control of the Board of Directors, invoking martial law, and then took control of the cannon. We attempted to blow up the cannon with itself(wouldn't mechanically work), Hallifax so it would be destroyed and not destroy everyone else (wouldn't mechanically work), fire the cannon at uninhabited spots to prevent use for at least another month (tried the Path of Solitude and oleanvir, wouldn't mechanically work), until we realized that the gun would literally not fire unless the target beacon was inside Gaudiguch. We returned the Beacon, ended up relaxing martial law and returning city power to the Board, and awaited Sciomore's arrival.
Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
There's a couple of kephera in Oleanvir you would-be murderers!
the Collective would mourn their loss for the agreed-upon interval
Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
I saw some logs of Sciomore, and frankly he seemed to have the general cold-cut personality that is common of Hallifax. He was logical, scientific, and to the point. He isnt about concepts of 'emotions' and 'caring'. Frankly, we are all technically 'servants' to the 6, yet some will make it more obvious than others. Some will try and make the mortals of their city happy and awed, others, such as Sciomore, will say "This is what needs doing, so do it".
And frankly, in the end, whether Sciomore is or is not harsh isnt the point, the point is, he had the reigns, and hallifaxians actually thought to try and contest Him about it. If this was any real life scenario, with some maniac in a building holding all captive, and hallifax players were actually trying to argue and push the maniac out, well then...good luck!
We're not openly blatantly servants in Gaudi, just saying. While I'm sure @Frai has grand schemes enslaving us etc, she has definitely come off as 'I'm just here to make sure these other guys don't take over.'
Also, I have a lot that I want to say on this topic, but I also don't want to give away certain things before it's over (if it ends) - so I'd think it'd be prudent to put this talk on hold and see how things play out.
"'Cause the fighting don't stop till I walk in." -Synkarin's Lament.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
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For the record, guild laws for "screw you council," are mechanically unenforceable. It's simply a matter of how willing people are to let said guilds play it out.
I imagine what Shaddus is talking about is that Hallifax has an org level law about it that related to the Sentinel's role in Hallifax, where as the Ur'Guard have an internal law because they just want to be the prettiest princess and specialist snowflake (as recent forums discussions have shown).
There's no mechanical way to remove the Board, just like there's no real mechanical way for Sentinels to remand someone into custody for questioning, or send someone for re-education. It's just like the Moondancer ritual to "cleanse" viscanti, or any number of other things in the game with no real effect beyond what effort we put into it.
Roleplay is like....well, it's like bondage play. It only really works well if it's consensual, and not overused. The Sentinel Guild doesn't openly advertise our roleplay of taking over the Board because we don't want it overused (and thus reducing the rp effects) or even used by someone unscrupulous. It's not even listed on the guild scroll or the physical scroll of our contract because we don't want every Taum, d'Yck and Hairy knowing the information. It's generally handed down word of mouth, to people we feel wouldnt abuse it, and i believe it was first mentioned by either Cririk or Elostian. Once again, it's not mechanical. It's roleplay designed to have one person take charge of the city if the Board cannot act in good faith to protect the Collective.
And last night, that happened.
Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
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Estarra the Eternal says, "Give Shevat the floor please."
:-O
No, I didn't detonate the Matrix to blow up Hallifax and kill you all, Hallifax was destroyed in the Taint Wars.
2015/12/09 23:54:29 - Pejat drained 2000000 power to raise Davos as a Vernal Ascendant.
You use 80,000,000 of your divine essence. You gain BeauteousThought as a supernumerary power.
You had 2 scenarios here:
1 - Do as Sciomore says and shoot Gaudiguch, see what happens. If something goes wrong, like let's say the lazer reflects back onto Hallifax, then it would have been on Sciomore and -not- the Hallifaxians. Then he would have had to fix the problem (and with the speed he made that lazer, I can imagine him building a new stronghold)
2 - Do nothing, ignore his threat, and watch as your city is destroyed. Now you are homeless -and- you have no backing you, as you lost the trust of one of the 6 most powerful beings currently standing.
Ya dun foozled up.
Edit: Frankly I feel several of the Halli players refusing to shoot was on the basis that they were certain something bad -would- happen to them from it, so they assumed "let's go down like heroes!". Bad move.
So hallifax did have two options: Blow Gaudi up, or allow the city to hit the ground, where it was theorized that [DATA REDACTED] and [DATA REDACTED] might blow up everything, and I don't mean just kill people. We explored other options, which took votes from the Board. Davos and I even went so far as to invoke the Sentinel Contract nuclear clause when the Board couldn't make a decision, taking control of the Board of Directors, invoking martial law, and then took control of the cannon. We attempted to blow up the cannon with itself(wouldn't mechanically work), Hallifax so it would be destroyed and not destroy everyone else (wouldn't mechanically work), fire the cannon at uninhabited spots to prevent use for at least another month (tried the Path of Solitude and oleanvir, wouldn't mechanically work), until we realized that the gun would literally not fire unless the target beacon was inside Gaudiguch. We returned the Beacon, ended up relaxing martial law and returning city power to the Board, and awaited Sciomore's arrival.
the Collective would mourn their loss for the agreed-upon interval
I saw some logs of Sciomore, and frankly he seemed to have the general cold-cut personality that is common of Hallifax. He was logical, scientific, and to the point. He isnt about concepts of 'emotions' and 'caring'. Frankly, we are all technically 'servants' to the 6, yet some will make it more obvious than others. Some will try and make the mortals of their city happy and awed, others, such as Sciomore, will say "This is what needs doing, so do it".
And frankly, in the end, whether Sciomore is or is not harsh isnt the point, the point is, he had the reigns, and hallifaxians actually thought to try and contest Him about it. If this was any real life scenario, with some maniac in a building holding all captive, and hallifax players were actually trying to argue and push the maniac out, well then...good luck!
Roleplay is like....well, it's like bondage play. It only really works well if it's consensual, and not overused. The Sentinel Guild doesn't openly advertise our roleplay of taking over the Board because we don't want it overused (and thus reducing the rp effects) or even used by someone unscrupulous. It's not even listed on the guild scroll or the physical scroll of our contract because we don't want every Taum, d'Yck and Hairy knowing the information. It's generally handed down word of mouth, to people we feel wouldnt abuse it, and i believe it was first mentioned by either Cririk or Elostian. Once again, it's not mechanical. It's roleplay designed to have one person take charge of the city if the Board cannot act in good faith to protect the Collective.
And last night, that happened.