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Okay this got derailed a bit (which I definitely assisted in).
To refocus this I wanted to break down the solutions we have so far in various categories and talk about what the objectives are.
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Here are mine:
Fight 1 (Sondayga, Remmiel, Wobou vs. Enadonella, Steingrim, Rolan): https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/QrhIuXYy
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This is less of a promotional thing and more of a pvp artifact idea. I think it would be interesting to give everyone a channeled pull. There have been a lot of complaints about the fortress meta recently (where recently is at least the past 5 years…
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Well there is that too but I think all the monks have synergies with other classes. Monk/warrior is still going to be strong as it always has, especially for Ninjakari and maybe Tahtetso. -
(Quote) I like the idea of moving the domoth item throughout stage 2. Usually one domothing team wipes out the other and maintains control over the whole bubble but I have seen domoths that were totally fortressed where both sides were on the…
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(Quote) Part of it is also that many of the conflict mechanics are single room based. Domoths being a chief example of this. If you're contesting in stage 1 but don't have control of the throne then you've lost, and if you're contesting in st…
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Double haegl days were dark times, although I mostly associate them with blacktalon faelings doing double haegl -> swoop pre racial-rework. The ease at which people could do that was probably enough of a reason to nerf it. I … -
I'd recommend treating dproph like an actual instakill and running it out just as you would from chasm/judge/etc. It's lame but it's the only way to guarantee survival.
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That's certainly a route that we could go, although sadly to make thornlash work I think even this would need to be combined with a ton of passive lashes (and ignite would have to be nerfed). I think making thornlash work withou… -
(Quote) What would cure sap in this case? Keep in mind that part of the objective is to get rid of cleanse which is a challenge in of itself. In a model like this I imagine that sap would be cured by running away from the druid on a timer or …
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This document is getting unwieldy already but based on this idea I added a variant of Option 3 called 3a to allow sapcurse to hinder writhing lashes. For the lazy I'll write it out here:Sap is chan…Thanks for that @Lerad. That report seems like a toned down version of Crek's OP wishlist. If I recall correctly you can writhe thornrend lashes off balance so scab…(Quote) And controversial statement of the thread goes to....
This is an argument that is a decade old at this point so we could definitely rehash it. I think for the most part that you're right but I think it's also not entirely …(Quote) Oh that's right. I didn't write Option 3 Veyils. I stole Enyalida's idea and modified it.
I've been talking to to s… (Quote) Oops I missed this one in my last post. My response to this is mostly the same as my response to Elryn but I'll also say that I think you're underestimating how many aspects of druids have been tuned around sap. We're talking ten year…(Quote)
You raise a good point. On paper druids are absolutely loaded with instakills. The issue as you mentioned with thornrend is viability. Sap is currently a viable way to lock someone down and kill them in both 1v1 and group settings. I …(Quote)
Changing the role of sap to a support-y role would be fine with me overall and if druids are overall for that then it definitely makes this discussion a lot easier. I would personally like everyone to have some method of killin…(Quote)
I added this list verbatim as solution 7, not because it's worse than any of the other suggestions (particularly my crappy 5 and 6) but because I've been referencing things by number in this post so I didn't want to renumber thi…(Quote)
Option 4 was coming from the mindset of changing as little as possible and coming up with a viable instakill. It has several problems which I don't know how to solve. It should work as written but the issue is that the way that …(Quote) Yeah I think under the way we have it now in option 2 seedcurse would be the thing that actually gains you seeds in the long haul and the regular seed syntax would basically be maintaining stacks by using the dust affs from meld/terts…(Quote)
I have to disagree. Now that FinalSting can function like heartburst, with the same cost and lower threshold, I think it's very relevant how Nekotai works in comparison to TK. In my opinion Nekotai should not be able to more easily/ch…(Quote) I personally like Shofangtree more than our grapple/ender names. Then again I'm a fan of the simpler names like buck/heelslam/bullkick/etc. Obv. it needs to be called ClimbingBull instead.in Monk Overhaul Comment by Wobou February 2017
@Sluelugh: I'd be fine with that too. I just couldn't think of a good RPish way to word that for the scenario where you're learning about this after kicking them…(Quote)
I asked for this very thing in the preliminary rounds. A skill that would add to assess the ability to see only the affs that matter for your insta. I believe they rejected that idea before but said that it could be envoyed in a…(Quote) This may be more true in the shofangi than other specs but I think we have decent choices available. It's true that we only have one instakill per spec but everyone has alternative ways to reach it. Shofangi have a ton of modifiers, Ninjaka…@Lerad the sprongma idea is interesting. I agree with your most of your suggested fix for Shocree but an issue remains where someone can now spam Nekcree for 1p a p…Okay here's my wall of text post about all the rest of the skills.Nekotai
Nekcree/Shocree
My concern with these stances is that vessels are so good that I can see it being prett…Necro incoming, but it's still on the first page of the overhaul forum so I think I'm safe.
Depending on how it's done I would be for adding this. Mostly because it's tiring that all sufficiently large group fights tend to devolve to a da…Sorry I haven't done a more overall comment about the shofangi skills. And the skills in general. I'll start with my baby and hopefully tonight I'll have the time to go through the other skills again since it looks like there have been some ninja ch…(Quote) I'm not sure what the overhaul will bring but I can tell you what happens now since I can cause ice affs. Currently it looks like things with no wounds cure instantly. So for example if I damage my own skull with no wounds it cures in…
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