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Dys said:

Innon has a lot of good points. Maybe we could try a players agreement to try 1v1v1v... in timequakes? Could be a mess but it'd probably be fun.

We'd just need to insert that in any treaties. They sound like they'll be in alternate realities so could be justified.

We'll certainly try! Though I am still up for teaming with Celest against Glom in them *nudge Celest*

edit: to clarify I think Gaudiguch does not have the PVPers to face down Glom. I'm still up for 1vs1 against smaller orgs!

Enya said:

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Aethercrafting and aether uncrafting have both been roundly repudiated by player feedback at every stage, continuing to devote even incidental resources to them is critical mismanagement. ESPECIALLY in a way that is essentially competitive (if not directly a PvP mechanic) , when a new forum thread starts practically every day lamenting the ongoing slow death of competition in Lusternia of any type. Never fear though, this created no delays in coming out with yet another PvP arena rolling out soon! Again: Baffled. 

Many of the in game artifacts require goop. One of the largest complaints is a lack of 'value' for trades. this helps address both. It might not do the later in the manner you wanted, but, it does add value.

While it sounds good and idealistic to put "Free-For-All during Timequakes", it is equally naive to think it'll get followed. Sure the letter of the law will be, but not the spirit. Unless that letter is truly fleshed out, it might as well not exist. Case in point, unless you explicitly state, "During and inside of the Timequakes, the alliance is dissolved. It is expected to be aggressive towards one another and is encouraged." But even then, there's still one big loophole in that. Remember growing up, whether yourself or a friend's story, someone holds their finger just out of reach while repeating, "I'm not touching you!"....yea.

Because it's easier, we can say that Mag and Halli make this agreement, and even though it is encouraged to go for the other's throat and win for ourselves, we can just 'happen' to work together by 'coincidence' to attack the same player from Celest. These treaties would have to be so precise and explicit to deny this behavior, that you might as well just be a standalone nation at that point. Case in point, the only clause I can think of at the moment to enforce this standalone mentality is, "During and inside of the Timequakes, the alliance is dissolved. It is required by mandate of this treaty to engage and not aide one another."

That is trying too hard, because then you're -still- going to end up doing what others have in the past, do as you please, what's the worst that can happen? CDF, ousting? Gaudiguch already has this precedent and knows exactly what I'm talking about with Ena when she constantly aided Glom and kept breaking the neutrality. Point is, there is no mechanical way to force this standalone behavior, and I'm definitely not going to say that people are even going to do it.

Innon has a lot of good points. Maybe we could try a players agreement to try 1v1v1v... in timequakes? Could be a mess but it'd probably be fun.

We'd just need to insert that in any treaties. They sound like they'll be in alternate realities so could be justified.

@Minkahmet haha

It doesn't matter if you're the best and fastest driver on a kayak when your competition is driving a speedboat.

The "git gud" motto is a huge fallacy and I automatically pity anyone who is deluded by it.

If you whisper to someone, only that person should be able to hear it, and not everyone in the location (just my opinion on what should logically happen, though. Everyone being able to hear the whispering has led to a couple of funny moments, so it's not my hill to die on or anything)

Kistan said:

When the UK moves to British Summer Time, the change of the weave in Lusternia should as well 

What about when EST moves to EDT and vice versa?!

(In all seriousness, weave is based on GMT and that's fair and impartial enough)

I mean it's not like the Magnagora of the past stared up into the sky with empty bowls going, "Can I have some more?" People miss that crucial link, Magnagora never made it their goal to be tainted. But instead of just wallowing in self-pity and loathing, they decided to embrace their alterations and run with it, to prove to everyone just how strong they were. It bothers me that Magnagora gets labeled as a city of evil, even by the website's briefing, when the history clearly paints them as survivors of a really unfortunate event.

Shango said:

'Nothing to do' because that group love their combat....but worked and continue to work hard, to stifle balance in the game between orgs to allow anyone to want to engage. As has been stated here in this very thread, people are not willing to entertain those complaining of nothing to do for a reason that Timequakes very much won't do a thing to address. Another chore? Joy. And that IS what combat these days feels like if not of a particular Org, a chore, even for me.

Hopefully after Timequakes, and mage revamp (that really should've been the actual top priority, unless ideas for it just haven't been hashed out fully yet)...things will be fixed. MUCH of the complaints and stated beliefs of bias and imbalance stem more from frustration of perceptions, than hopefully any actual reality. So admins and players alike, patience, mm? I'm with you all that feel the frustrations of this game right now, really I am...but even if things did a complete 180 and everything was being worked on to balance things out to be enjoyable by all properly, it's going to take quite some time to fix things.

Yeah, but that time isn't going to get any shorter. Getting the overhaul done means that all of the orgs would have updated melders.

Doing a "180" on this means rather than spending any time on envoying solutions for the current context, the reports can focus on what the context is going to become. I know some of the things Seren was asking/hoping for could be really important moving forward.

It's also just a better flow in terms of the messaging tbh. Like doesn't...
"We've finished the melder overhaul, we've updated the classes so orgs are more equivalent, so now we're going to release a new pvp mechanic"
sound better than
"We've released a new pvp mechanic, we'll be looking at the org imbalance later"

Going to chime in that having the capstone power of winning lots of these PvP fights make it easier to raid a plane.. but only if that plane's owners aren't winning PvP events already is a bad idea.