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I figured it was Jar-Sun... Like this thing...


Oh wait, that's a Sun Jar...

It's almost as if, in the past, people have made separate threads addressing singular Glomdoring mechanics. Many of them, even. It's almost as if, in each of those threads, the same things happen. It's a wonder that Glomdoring has so many singular problematic features.

I don't think it's feasible to claim, in the same breath, that Glomdoring doesn't have mechanical balance problems and that there's value in performing a bleeding rework. Those are mutually exclusive and merely use the state of the overhaul as a scapegoat. Glomdoring has problems that extend far past the mechanical.

Except it's apparent that it's beyond redemption and that Glomdoring and friends actually just want everyone else to quit the game. There's really no other logical response for the actions taken in the past several years of threads, particularly in recent times now that more people are realising the state of affairs. I don't understand how anyone can claim that the results are merely the result of their cooperative power alone, were that the case they should have no qualms with having their skills changed, even radically. 

Bleeding is too strong when modified and amplified* by the plethora of Glomdoring skills. Bleeding itself isn't problematic.
Glomdoring has unparalleled synergy and too many individually powerful skills that are too powerful.

This thread is several pages of detracting, and several pages of people reinforcing the same points, despite the fact that it's general knowledge to anyone still playing the game.

Really though, ethereal is pretty garbage to have to play around? The Smobs are absurdly hard to drop, but it's ripe for hit and run raids forever. 

My one big gripe vis-a-vis cities vs. forests (now that totems are done) is that for Serenwilde in particular there is not and never has been anything resembling a "win" in the story line for Serenwilde. Ever. Serenwilde always merely breaks even at best. This is super frustrating and eventually leads to burnout, imo.

Actually, I'd be interested to know if that's the case in other orgs. I'm not sure if it is, and it actually might be?

Deichtine said:
Well if they don't believe people in their own org that's hard to change. I can always point out examples of people who I have helped with their systems or their kills as examples to show its true though but you are right if people won't listen to whats happening then there isn't anything you can do to change their minds really.

I did not say that. Don't twist my words. Again, you have missed the point. Giving examples of people you have helped is going to do nothing.

You need to show that Glomdoring is not toxic. You need to fundamentally change how Glomdoring operates, to prove you actually care about the game carrying on. Because no-one is going to rise up to stop Glomdoring. This is what they have been trying to explain for the past...however long it has been. No one can stop you. No one will stop you. You will just keep winning until you discover that there is no one left to fight.

Kistan said:

Until both sides are putting in equal amounts of effort with skill, enthusiasm, sparring and testing, you can not say one side is better than the other. It is just anecdote, not fact.

First of all, false. Second of all, also artifacts.

Esoneyuna said:

Aramel said:

Cosmic is a good point, though it's dubious how much newbies can really help in a fleshpot raid - though commune mobs also don't respawn like elemental mobs do. And I agree that lowmagic is better. That's why I think the best solution really would be org parity as much as possible, in skillsets, territory, etc, so everyone can stop arguing about what everyone else has.

Just a reminder both Gaudiguch and Hallifax have this annoying little mechanic where we have to harvest our smobs. The 'feeding' of those smobs is in fact a novice thing (the nexusworld power quest). If we don't do this feeding we don't have flesh/crystals and we can't call our easily killed entities.

So yeah easy access to cosmic is a bit more important then just for pvp

A semi valid point, though Hallifax people who do this actually have to be able to fly to do the quest.

Aramel said:

@Steingrim Melder casts Cyclone/Inferno/Fury etc - wait till second 10, activate clock for 3 seconds until mage insta passes. Mage now has 0 power and didn't do anything to your entire team.

I'm gonna be honest, this just sounds like a good tactic.