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To me its a case of either a skill is considered vital for combat and thus everyone should have access to it without an artifact gate.

Or its not considered vital and in that case get rid of the artifact and leave scent as a class skill.

I'm all for deleting any artifacts and enchantments that allow someone to use skills from someone else's skillset. All of them.

Niwynne said:

Whether it is Glomdoring's fault or not, there certainly is a perception that Glomsdoring is largely to blame for this. And the constant repetitive steering of artifact and skill discussions into scent is weird and certainly not helping to dissuade those who think there is an agenda. Just have a think about how your actions can be perceived.

There are some Glomdoring players like Xenthos who seem to be nice - he even took time to patiently explain some things when I was a bit overly critical and under the impression that everyone hated everyone here - but people are tarring everyone in Glom with a single brush.

Contrariwise, when most of the game seems to think the problem is Glomdoring, perhaps it is time to consider that...it might in some way be true. Or, something is going on that is causing that perception, and it might be as easy to fix as working out how to be perceived differently.

I have several friends in Glomdoring. They are not in my opinion the problem, but they are the symptom of a complex series of problems that the current admin are working hard to resolve. Glom literally showed me the ropes. I would hate to lose the friendships I have with them outside of lusty. 

The issue is what Plato showed in The Cave. It is hard to explain the sun to someone that has never seen the sun. The game at times has overly nerfed things and swung the pendulum too far the other way sometimes. Glomdoring doesn't want this to happen and are very wary of this. This is hard for non-Glom to realize. However, it's been a long time since Glom has been out numbered, so it is hard for them to realize. 

Some true issues that have been nixed and the main reason for my return (I once retired). Old envoy system was elitest and in my opinion detrimental to everyone involved. Admins are still replacing it. Lesson cost was unbearable. Admins changed it. Whales were uncatchable. Boom, FTP. A particular artifact broke a massive amount of kill methods. Reviewed and fixed. 

Glom is a symptom of the rich get richer simply due to the old envoy system, combat overhaul ripples, decrease in overall population. Basically, because mana drain is better than ego drain and bleeding/bruising they were the best kill methods because of Illself for a very very long time. 

Celest grew successful with the help of Glom and Mink. They were virtually dead except for Romaan before that. Gaudi had some real life situations that decreased their population, but that has bounced back and they are growing more successful under Gloms wing. Economy was a huge issue at one time then you had a string of detrimental retirements Mrak being one I recall. 

Hopefully, this is rock bottom. It isn't only Glomdoring's fault. They are just currently at the top of everything except mage/druid which is the worst, and maybe their monk is second best. 

I think most of everyone has friends on both sides. Some Gloms, I will play other games with. I think we all can remind ourselves a difference of opinion and perspectives is okay. We can disagree, and that is okay. However, some people historically on both sides have blocked and did what was best for them not the game. Hopefully, Illself and the lengths the admin are going to right now proves they are trying to address problems, and this prevents further retires. 

Look, maybe I'm just naively hoping for an end to this discussion, but my question was innocent enough.  It's not my fault if you guys take offence to it (especially if there's nothing to take offence for).

Putting a smiley face at the end of a condescending remark doesn't actually make it less condescending. You people need to be nicer to each other. This is supposed to be about making the game a batter place.

Do any artifacts affect ease of capturing villages? Cause I just saw in the last revolt, all five villages were captured by Gaudiguch and Glomdoring, including the two dwarf villages (who the helpfile says are hostile to each other) both being captured by the same city. This seems a bit odd to me, how do you get opposing villages so quickly?

That said...Warriors at least once had a targeting malus system instated back when Deepwounds was a far more effective system than the static, alien design it is now. Multiple Warriors hitting the same person and same bodypart, got diminishing returns...preventing say, 4+ warriors all striking head and insta beheading the target in one combined balance. Wouldn't work with how Warriors are now, however doing such a system where damage, affliction application, mana/ego drains all done on the same target within a set amount of time consecutively all had diminished returns...

Maybe not so much the pure damage route (lol Vitality and Illself), but the rest absolutely. Prevent a Monk, a Bard, and a Guardian just piling on affs till the target is greenlocked almost immediately, proned and stunned so unable to do anything even if they weren't already greenlocked...prevent a group mass draining the targets mana for insta toading, or ego for the same to EternalSleep...such a system would be rather intensive on the coding resources required, but could be designed.

Issue again though, remains that combat in general being unbalanced is still at the core of the issue. The above would literally just remove the last Org to have strong skills even in groups from doing much of anything either. Balancing classes to be effective in combat on their own, THEN worry about group synergy beyond obvious 'omg' moments like Succumb, Aeon+stun+aurics+monk/guardian aff outputs, etc...would still be the better route to focus on. But a general cooldown to things done in battle to a single target, may help in the short term.