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Re: Idea to help increase interaction

I can see maybe limit it to 4 so we never have a 5v1 and internal tension will end up causing someone to leave. I think the attrition cost will make sense, same as increased chance of revolts for opposing ideologies being in the same group.

Kaindor

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Re: Targeting Malus

Just looking at how the Seals have gone:

Glomdoring: 4
Gaudiguch: 3
Celest: 1
Magnagora: 1
Serenwilde: 0
Hallifax: 0

That's a 8/1 split between the two main alliances! Lets look at domoths. Again, it's currently an 8/1 split. You have to see that something here is very wrong.

Celest is a virtually dead org. Serenwilde seems to have mostly given up on fighting and apparently consist of rpers and shopkeepers who sometimes do influencing to get daily credits. They're literally playing their own self-contained game away from everyone else. Magnagora is pretty game, obviously trying but just as obviously, being kicked in the teeth a lot. Nothing about any of this makes for a healthy game.

Niwynne

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Re: Targeting Malus

Negativity was already brought here. Side note, how would you know that these new players are being told to avoid it and not making that decision on their own? Are you one of the many people that made a character, poked around and left? Magnagora has a single new person that is interested in combat and we're doing what we can to help them. We don't stifle them or tell them don't bother. We answer their questions and give them absolutely massive support in guides, training, equipment, hell even artifacts to help them. So I'm really curious where this idea that "Magnagora is just telling their new people to not bother." comes from.

Lycidas

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Re: Wonderbrazier IllusorySelf

What about something a little more connected to the brazier and light/heat, like Mirage Shield?

Niwynne

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Re: Artifact Review

Enya said:

That's not what the comment about certain bubbles is saying. He's saying "If scent is required for combat, how did anyone fight on Dramube or Facility [where all the rooms are named the same thing, rendering scent useless]".

Scent is practically a requirement because the meta has entirely revolved around lockdowns and chasing for a decade, and is balanced around the idea that if someone leaves the room you can reasonably chase them down. Because being held still is so dangerous in the current balance environment, there are lots of tools to get out of a room and skedadle and without a solid way to track enemies down in real time, those methods effectively get you out of danger if you get two rooms away and can keep moving.

Shaddus said:

Enadonella said:

Shaddus said:
Aramel said:
I agree with @Maligorn - scent is crucial enough to all combat that locking it behind an org skill (that only 2/6 orgs even have) is likely to cause many problems, especially because one of the most important parts of combat is pinning people down.
I'm curious as to why @Enadonella disagrees with this.

Tarken said:
Scent isn't manditory: its just easy, or fights on facility or dramube would be impossible. Personally I'd want to see any changes to the artefact propagate to the skill as well though, and my personal preference would be a 5 second internal cd rather than adding a balance. I doubt this is a battle worth fighting though.

There is your answer @Shaddus. Anything else confusing you?

explaining that scent isn't mandatory, but it makes the game easier (and almost 100% needed in certain bubbles)

Which is pretty much what I said he said.

My point is that Enadonella disagreed with a point, and when called on that disagreement, replied by sharing a post that was only tangentially connected to that point because of subject matter

Maligorn says that scent is important and shouldn't be kept to two orgs.

Tarken's post, regardless of his intent, agrees with Maligorn's post or at least proves his point.

Enadonella is just disagreeing with Maligorn because he's Maligorn, and she doesn't have a cognizant point to make beyond making some obvious forum partisanship.

Shaddus

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Re: Targeting Malus

That's a very good point (I have transcendant cooking with low class skills). I still wish there would be something to separate newbies from veterans so people can start out with someone their own size, though.

Coraline

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Re: Artifact Review

That's not what the comment about certain bubbles is saying. He's saying "If scent is required for combat, how did anyone fight on Dramube or Facility [where all the rooms are named the same thing, rendering scent useless]".

Scent is practically a requirement because the meta has entirely revolved around lockdowns and chasing for a decade, and is balanced around the idea that if someone leaves the room you can reasonably chase them down. Because being held still is so dangerous in the current balance environment, there are lots of tools to get out of a room and skedadle and without a solid way to track enemies down in real time, those methods effectively get you out of danger if you get two rooms away and can keep moving.

Enya

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Re: Targeting Malus

Deichtine said:

Motivation is a big part in that as well.

People are being pushed away from joining in because of negativity. When people are told not to bother that is a big discouragement.

Looking back on when we were outnumbered by a fair margin we had some very positive people who really encouraged people to try and join in even when outnumbered.

Positivity, a good attitude and keeping on trying is a great way to build up your team for sure. It worked for us when we were at a low ebb.

I mean I know Lycidias you didn't really like doing pvp even on your older characters. You even said on yourself more than a few times.

People are being pushed away because anytime they actually get the gumption and motivation to PvP, you come down hard, raiding multiple times a day nonstop until people give up, not to mention absolving domoths at every opportunity, etc etc. Stop shirking that responsibility. You and yours stifle PvP on the regular. Stop putting this "negativity" narrative into the mix. Calling you on your BS.

EDIT: Your most recent victim was Magnagora. I'm sure they could say more about this given the recency.

Maligorn

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Re: Wonderbrazier Purify

I'm still mulling this one over. The extra esteem generation is the current winner of the poll, but as noted, the wonderbrazier already provides a bonus to this.

I do think it's better to leave esteem generation to influencing (even if hunting will never rival it) but would something like Lycidas suggested to increase corpse offerings be something people are interested in?

Orael

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Re: Idea to help increase interaction

I like this idea. I would only change the org limit from 3 to 4. I still dream (and work in-game... well, when I play...) to realize the beauty of forests vs. cities.

Synl

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