I would buy that artifact IF….. Artifact review.

SteingrimSteingrim Member Posts: 884 Fabled

So clearly they want people to spend credits, one way is with new items. Another is tweaking existing ones.

 

Post here as to why you put off buying a specific artifact or why you think a particular artifact is overpriced and a bad deal.

You tell Wyrden Ravager Tarken, "Come to Gaudiguch. I'll give you the title of Grand Moth."
Eyes peering skywards as he thinks, Ironbeard the Magnanimous says to Sksez, "Welll, on my gooD lis *hic* t, we have....Stei *hic* ng *hic* rim.U..Xypherv....Luu *hic* hghaigh *hic* hhe....Breandryn....."
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  • SteingrimSteingrim Member Posts: 884 Fabled

    Doctoral Tam of the Anomaly: 2000 credits

       -Can classflex every 75 rl hours (rather than 300 hours).

     

    I would buy that artifact IF:

         I could use it to help back up meld without getting stuck in a class I never wanted to play for three days.

    You tell Wyrden Ravager Tarken, "Come to Gaudiguch. I'll give you the title of Grand Moth."
    Eyes peering skywards as he thinks, Ironbeard the Magnanimous says to Sksez, "Welll, on my gooD lis *hic* t, we have....Stei *hic* ng *hic* rim.U..Xypherv....Luu *hic* hghaigh *hic* hhe....Breandryn....."
  • SteingrimSteingrim Member Posts: 884 Fabled

    A miniature balloon (700 dingbats).

     

    I would buy that artifact IF:

        It could be test driven. No one is admitting to having this thing and I can’t pay that much for something without a test drive. Also if at this point no one has brought it (IF) then maybe the price is set too high.


    You tell Wyrden Ravager Tarken, "Come to Gaudiguch. I'll give you the title of Grand Moth."
    Eyes peering skywards as he thinks, Ironbeard the Magnanimous says to Sksez, "Welll, on my gooD lis *hic* t, we have....Stei *hic* ng *hic* rim.U..Xypherv....Luu *hic* hghaigh *hic* hhe....Breandryn....."
  • SteingrimSteingrim Member Posts: 884 Fabled

    Aviator Goggles (350 dingbats)

      - Detect anything flying (movement in/out of the room at flying elevation).

     

    Won these and still felt cheated so traded them in. Maybe if they you know told you who flew into a room?

    You tell Wyrden Ravager Tarken, "Come to Gaudiguch. I'll give you the title of Grand Moth."
    Eyes peering skywards as he thinks, Ironbeard the Magnanimous says to Sksez, "Welll, on my gooD lis *hic* t, we have....Stei *hic* ng *hic* rim.U..Xypherv....Luu *hic* hghaigh *hic* hhe....Breandryn....."
  • KiradaweaKiradawea Member Posts: 1,750 Transcendent
    Pearl Ring and Manna if the price was slashed at least in half. They're *far* too expensive for what they do.
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  • KagatoKagato Carmichael, CAMember Posts: 1,237 Mythical
    Kiradawea said:
    Pearl Ring and Manna if the price was slashed at least in half. They're *far* too expensive for what they do.
    If they cut the price of the pearl ring I'd expect them to cut the price of the other elemental plane rings too - not really fair to have a ring that gives people an inherent advantage on one plane cheaper than ones for the other 3 elemental planes (Air/earth/fire)
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  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.Member Posts: 7,799 Transcendent
    I'd buy the divine artifacts (font/symbol/mark) a lot more often if the price was cut. They're handy, but not as handy as they should be at that price.

    I'd buy the fesix pack more often if it got converted to a rune for a normal pack, like the pipe runes did for pipes.

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  • KarlachKarlach God of Kittens. Member Posts: 3,860 Transcendent
    I'd buy the figurine rune if it didn't reset to level 1.

    The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."

    You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!


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  • IasmosIasmos Member Posts: 461 Virtuoso
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  • TacitaTacita <3s Xynthin 4eva!!!11 Member Posts: 789 Transcendent
    Shaddus said:
    I'd buy the divine artifacts (font/symbol/mark) a lot more often if the price was cut. They're handy, but not as handy as they should be at that price. I'd buy the fesix pack more often if it got converted to a rune for a normal pack, like the pipe runes did for pipes.
    I really like this idea, and would probably buy one if this were the case.

    I think all the trade artefacts that only work on self would be purchased more if they were lendable (I think the jeweller's hammer isn't? I would buy one if I could hand it out, since I'm not always a jeweller).
  • KagatoKagato Carmichael, CAMember Posts: 1,237 Mythical
    edited November 2013
    Pretty sure a jewellers hammer can be used by someone else - doesn't state in the HELP ARTIFACTS TRADE file that it is only usable by the buyer... (If this is the case, it really needs to be added to the scroll)

    That being said, the cost of the jewellers hammer feels awfully steep compared to the other artifacts which are between 200-400 credits to buy, but the jewelers hammer being 500
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  • TacitaTacita <3s Xynthin 4eva!!!11 Member Posts: 789 Transcendent
    Actually thinking about it I have borrowed one in the past, but yes, the price difference is interesting(/annoying) too.
  • ShuyinShuyin The pug life chose me. Member Posts: 1,613 Transcendent
    TL;DR: I would buy (insert artifact here) if the price were cut.

    Yes, we all would.

    It would be cool if all the artifacts were adjusted in price according to utility and not previous auction price, etc. etc.
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  • ElanorwenElanorwen The White Falconess Member Posts: 2,927 Transcendent
    Steingrim said:

    Aviator Goggles (350 dingbats)

      - Detect anything flying (movement in/out of the room at flying elevation).

     

    Won these and still felt cheated so traded them in. Maybe if they you know told you who flew into a room?

    They don't? I seem to recall them showing the name of the person entering/leaving. I even had an announcing trigger set up somewhere for when people enter/leave while flying.
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  • KarlachKarlach God of Kittens. Member Posts: 3,860 Transcendent
    Kiradawea said:
    Pearl Ring and Manna if the price was slashed at least in half. They're *far* too expensive for what they do.
    Considering what Manna can actually do at Ascendant level, it's not.

    Manna just really isn't something for Demigods, I mean sure you can get +30 weight and have all the stats and a few extra powers on top, but it comes into it's own at Ascendant level.

    The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."

    You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!


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  • ElanorwenElanorwen The White Falconess Member Posts: 2,927 Transcendent
    Morkarion said:
    Kiradawea said:
    Pearl Ring and Manna if the price was slashed at least in half. They're *far* too expensive for what they do.
    Considering what Manna can actually do at Ascendant level, it's not.

    Manna just really isn't something for Demigods, I mean sure you can get +30 weight and have all the stats and a few extra powers on top, but it comes into it's own at Ascendant level.
    Not true if you have a seal... still a bit too expensive. Never mind that about 80% of ascendant powers are rather meh to begin with.
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  • KarlachKarlach God of Kittens. Member Posts: 3,860 Transcendent
    The Seal power comes at free weight though?

    And there are a lot of junk Ascendant powers, but the really really good ones cost you weight.

    The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."

    You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!


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  • ElanorwenElanorwen The White Falconess Member Posts: 2,927 Transcendent
    Morkarion said:
    The Seal power comes at free weight though?

    And there are a lot of junk Ascendant powers, but the really really good ones cost you weight.
    Seal powers at free weight? I wish. I'd have all my Chaos powers then. It comes at free weight if you ascend from that seal... and it comes at no essence cost either from what I heard.
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  • KarlachKarlach God of Kittens. Member Posts: 3,860 Transcendent
    edited November 2013
    I was always of the understanding you get one power related to your Seal's domoth at no weight cost. You still need to buy it for Essence though.

    Edit: If you're TA you get all 3. But seal bearers do get one.

    The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."

    You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!


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  • ElanorwenElanorwen The White Falconess Member Posts: 2,927 Transcendent
    Morkarion said:
    I was always of the understanding you get one power related to your Seal's domoth at no weight cost. You still need to buy it for Essence though.
    powers status
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    EndowmentOfLife              Supernumerary      9
    ChoiceLookMessage            Supernumerary      2
    ChoiceEnterMessage           Supernumerary      2
    EndowmentOfThought           Supernumerary      9
    EndowmentOfVanity            Supernumerary      9
    ChoiceTeleportMessage        Supernumerary      2
    ChoiceZap                    Ephemeral          0
    Seek                         Ephemeral          0
    ChoiceShout                  Ephemeral          0
    *******************************************************************************
    You are using 33 weight points.
    You have a maximum of 50 weight points for supernumerary powers available.

    powers select dispersal supernumerary
    That power would put you over your supernumerary weight limit of 50.
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  • KarlachKarlach God of Kittens. Member Posts: 3,860 Transcendent
    That's odd, you might have to either clear weight to invest in it, or swap it in as Ephermeral first.

    Alternatively it might require wearing the Seal, but talking with @Shuyin, it definately is free for Ascendants, Svorai got Attune for free earlier this year.

    The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."

    You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!


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  • XenthosXenthos Shadow Lord Member Posts: 5,995 Transcendent
    It is only free for True Ascendants. If you have a seal you can buy one power but it still requires essence and weight.

    As such, manna is incredibly useful for a Demigod with a Seal too.
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  • KarlachKarlach God of Kittens. Member Posts: 3,860 Transcendent
    edited November 2013
    That doesn't make sense though, because then essentially Seals are useless for Vernal Ascendants, they can already buy those powers.


    Edit: Still, it's using Manna to buy Ascendant powers, which was generally my point. It's not really something you get for regular Demigod abilities. Most Domoths have at least one really good ability to invest in, and buying the weight to afford that? It's worth what you pay for it.

    The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."

    You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!


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  • ElanorwenElanorwen The White Falconess Member Posts: 2,927 Transcendent
    Morkarion said:
    That doesn't make sense though, because then essentially Seals are useless for Vernal Ascendants, they can already buy those powers.


    Edit: Still, it's using Manna to buy Ascendant powers, which was generally my point. It's not really something you get for regular Demigod abilities. Most Domoths have at least one really good ability to invest in, and buying the weight to afford that? It's worth what you pay for it.
    You get to do stage 1 (for that particular domoth) twice as fast. That's about all a seal gives to a vernal ascendant... oh, and 25 extra days on holding the domoth once you've claimed it. It's a bit wonky... in theory, it should also make it harder to get absolved/easier to absolve opposing domoth too, but never had a chance to test it.
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  • KarlachKarlach God of Kittens. Member Posts: 3,860 Transcendent
    Actually to bring this back on topic, I'd buy another Manna if they stacked.


    I'm well aware they never will because that's a horrible idea and will totally screw game balance, but I'd still do it if you could.

    The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."

    You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!


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  • RiviusRivius Your resident wolf puppy Member Posts: 1,623 Transcendent
    o I would have bought level 3 weapon runes if the gap between them and level 2s were like the gap between level 1 and level 2. It's kind of an unjustified extra cost for little gain. But in any case, warriors are changing soon, so it doesn't matter.

    o I've boycotted pliers for reasons as well as the forging mallet.

    That said, there are a number of not-so-useful artifacts that are way too high priced:

    o Silver bubble pipe at 250 credits. <-- Hiding exits is worthless in this day and age of mappers. Might as well just retire them or make them a fun dingbat item at closer to 50db.
    o Rockeater's maw can easily be cut in half. 300 credits is way too much. I'd be shocked if anyone actually bought this.
    o Figurine runes are way too pricey for what they do.
    o Faerie wings can be cut in half. I have two free forms of flight though, so I wouldn't buy these myself.
    o The level 2 regeneration runes are waaaaay overpriced.


  • IasmosIasmos Member Posts: 461 Virtuoso
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  • KagatoKagato Carmichael, CAMember Posts: 1,237 Mythical
    edited November 2013
    Keeping it at level 40 would be a tad overpowered IMHO, considering how much of a boost in esteem-to-essence it gives - that being said, returning it to level 1 is also a tad excessive as well. x_x
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    If olive oil comes from olives, where does baby oil come from?

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  • SsalissSsaliss Member Posts: 3,575 Transcendent
    So simple solution is to make it halve the levels.
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