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When do bards hit the entire room?
You want me to go full badmouth on envoys? I can talk about your numerous attempts to buff Stealth without addressing Veil or Deepcover if you want. 1384, 1426, 1477, 1527, 1536. We all also know how petty you can get when people try to nerf your skills.
Okay, do you see that there's 2 melder envoy comments on report 1574. That's 2 out of 6. That's not a full consensus. That's not even a majority. Everyone that supported that report was not a melder. How is that "okay" in the "boundaries of the totally balanced envoy system" to you? You really do get -super- irritated when people try to lecture you about Nekotai. Why can't you offer me the same courtesy?
You know, I took a third look at that forums thread, and Sidd DID say why he ignored my suggestions (and of course, Falmiis' and Enyalida's suggestions):
Synkarin said:Seems like general support of this in general. I'll probably report this next month with the suggested solutions mostly because 1) It adjusts existing mechancs rather than adding entire new ones, 2) I like the idea of it being something you have to actively keepup versus a set and forget strategy and 3) I'm reporting it so I'm bias and I like my idea.
The third one is facetious, so I don't see it as a valid reason. But he provided two reasons about why he opted to ignore our collective suggestions. I can disagree with the solutions, or even his reasons, but this is not even a case where he is running roughshod over suggestions without considering them - he answered my concerns with reasons. Of course, I still can disagree with that - but at the end of the day, he's the one with melder experience that trumps mine.
Which, by the way, answers this question of yours:
You really do get -super- irritated when people try to lecture you about Nekotai. Why can't you offer me the same courtesy?
I do - I am not shy to put out ideas, theoretical or not, even on classes I have no experience with. Just for the fun of brainstorming, if nothing else. I also am not shy to lodge serious and vehement protests on said skillsets if I see a problem, but I make a conscious effort to limit my own reports to my own skillsets. And as aggressive as I am, I defer to the final decision by the envoy making their own reports, and of course, the admin deciding on them.
Stealth is not under-powered it is niche, there is a difference.
Maybe you should take a lesson from Avurekhos or Tarken with how much you are downplaying Stealth.Or maybe you should actually take part in pk to see what the state of the game is. I dunno.
gimme stealth gaudi monk. I will show you how under-powered the skillset is >.>
...I've mentioned this in a recent report - but with both those abilities (specifically Deepcover and Veil) available via artifacts, I see absolutely zero justification for limiting stealth buffs because of those two abilities anyway....
I made a thread before this one that explains -why- I support the problem statement, but not the solutions. Seriously, I'm not trying to obfuscate my words here. I know full and well that it's crazy that melders can stand 1 room away and still be perfectly effective. And I even pointed out that I don't even like that meta/paradigm. You don't need to paint me like some villain or hypocrite.
"I know I said 'Stealth is underpowered', word for word, but that doesn't actually mean that I think it is underpowered. It's all in the 'semantics' that allow me to make statements like that and then backtrack later when it's clear that I have no idea what I'm talking about. "All of this aside, all classes have 3 skillsets. It doesn't even matter if Stealth was really "underpowered". Would monks be underpowered if they only had Kata and Acrobatics? Not at all. Stealth and Harmony don't even need to exist and monks would still be stronger than most of not all other classes (bards being the only comparable one). Saying any one skillset, particularly in a non-primary skillset is underpowered without taking into account how the skillset fits into the overall class is being ignorant or intentionally disingenuous.