Angry over Hallifax/Magnagora RP last night.

MiraeMirae Member Posts: 6 Inept
I just want it to be known last night ruined the game for me a bit. I'm going to be stepping back from playing as much and stop trying in combat-related events.

The whole "Hallifax declaring the treaty with Magnagora" ending? Yes, I'm fine with. There is nothing to be said there because at the end of the day it falls to city "leaders" and the ilk as to how they want to RP/play out their roles.

What I'm not fine with is the fact that I died because Hallifax decided to sit at our Megalith on Prime (which is generally assumed a safe place) and kill members of Magnagora. I was just arriving back from bashing to finish learning some lessons, and then log off. Imagine my surprise when I show up to Alexandria, Ymuli, Aramel, and Kaizynne sitting there. I walked into the room and was KOS'd.

Our newbies were on our City Aether saying "Should I stay out of the City to avoid being killed?". Imagine if a youngling was learning at the Megalith and was slain by Hallifax's outburst. They'd probably leave too after a bad interaction like that. The same could be said if someone was at Titan and died to a bad event like this.

Overall this interaction could have been much better and left a bad taste in my mouth in regards to "Politics" of Lusternia.


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  • CiaranCiaran Member Posts: 813 Mythical
    It's rough luck that you died, but one death in ally territory is seriously not a big deal. ONE time during a momentous political event should just be written off to wrong place at the wrong time. I don't want to say that your feelings are unwarranted, it's just how you feel, and that's unfortunate. But ultimately all the people that raided Magnagora died themselves, and it's not like this is going to be a regular occurrence. It was the violent dissolution of your alliance, a one time event.
    To me you're forever the kick runner from 3 years ago, the guy who does domoths when no one is online and whines that he's got no competition, and the guy that use to only turn up to fights when the numbers favoured him.
  • MiraeMirae Member Posts: 6 Inept
    They say that hindsight is 20/20.
    I can agree that it is rough luck, and I appreciate your kind words @Ciaran. At the same time though.. something like a yell "We are through with Magnagora!" or something like that, followed by a momentous raid would have been my ideal. If I had died trying to protect my city, I absolutely wouldn't have felt the way I did last night.

    After having a good day at work and thinking things through, yes I was in the wrong place at the wrong time for an event of that magnitude. I was also running on little sleep, so it added to my irritation.

    @Kethaera You're right, had I been in the right frame of mind at the moment, that is probably what I would've done. I agree, it is a conflict game and I understand that. I just hated that I was at the center at the moment.

    All in all its an event that happened and death is nothing compared to Timequakes and such. I was just extremely unhappy that I didn't get even a small chance to defend myself.
  • VexacionVexacion Member Posts: 9 Novice
    It's really unfortunate that our response to people being upset over being killed at a Nexus is 'chin up and kill them back'. I have to admit that I'm pretty disappointed in the idea that Hallifax thought it was at all acceptable to kill Magnagoran citizens at the Nexus, but considering I've seen them kill relative Lusternian newbies at a raised node on Prime, I can't say I'm too surprised that they did it.

    Very little of it feels in-character, and seeing that I've heard from multiple sources that Celest was harassing Alexandria over it, I must admit that I'm just glad it's finally happened. We've all been waiting for it to happen anyways.

    Remember to be excellent to each other, guys.
  • SapphiraSapphira Member Posts: 55 Capable
    edited July 1
    It was clever timing - minimal people around in the city. As far as 'f you' moves go, it was pretty spectacular. I was only half paying attention due to enchanting, we were very much caught by surprise. Hadn't even seen the news post yet! And guards not hitting was another advantage but in the end, everyone died trying. You were valiantly avenged several times over by our loyal guards! 

    I find it very easy to get annoyed ooc about things like this, because me the player is here like 'but but these are liessss how dare they!' But then....it's clever roleplay, and I can't help but admire that even if we copped the brunt. Witty banter on the public forum pleases me so much, it's clever and politics. Will take that any day over shouted, uncreative insults, or death and 'get rekt' sort of responses.

    Curious to see what the future will hold. Bold move Hallifax, bold move! The game of chess continues!  ;)

    Edit: Meant to clarify, surprised in the moment. There was a pretty long held suspicion that Hallifax were preparing to betray us, it was just a question of when. If there hadn't been plans until last moment, then you guys are good at being shady!  :D 
  • AlexandriaAlexandria Member Posts: 330 Virtuoso
    I have seen direct quotes of where an angry comment was made by me, IC, to a member of Magnagora, and was met by “oh we expected this”. Nobody said anything to Allie. 

    Earlier yesterday evening my time, I was talking to a Magnagoran OOC. I actually tried to bring up what I thought was the problem and was specifically told it wasn’t relevant. 

    Magnagora has spent the last month deliberately boxing Hallifax out of things, then turning around to claim that we just didn’t show up. 

    Magnagora has spent the last year being frequently rude and ignoring issues when they were raised IC. I’m not saying Hallifax is perfect by any means. But I’m saying there were long-standing IC problems that got ignored. 

    In fact, the immediate response to the raid - which happened when two Magnagoran combatants the other side notoriously struggles to kill were online (and were in the TQ immediately before) - was that they expected it. 

    As for me being harassed? Yes. You’re right. Most recently it has been one specific Celestian, who I blocked OOCly over it. There was a Glom asking me frequently about other things. There was also snarky, perfectly IC nastiness from allies. And that is wearing on a person too, no matter how much it suits Mag to be cutting, petty and rude IC. 

    Hallifax posted publicly. I’ve already reminded the people who went to the raid that they didn’t let me deliver the letter first - a point that irritated me too. 

    You know what I expected out of this? A dead treaty and slightly less frustration in the daily lives of Hallifaxians. Oh, and enough fireworks to power a New Year’s party. 

    You know what I didn’t expect? To have to hear about it all OOCly from people who didn’t care enough to talk IC the first time around. 

    Mirae, I’m very sorry that you’re frustrated. You have IC avenues to deal with that too. We wanted the treaty done with. Absolutely none of the Hallifaxians involved have declined to RP with anybody about it afterwards. Even when we were busy still doing things, Malarious was hounding us for answers IC. Feel free to have at me IC over IC actions. 

    Czixi, the Welkin murmurs, "Fight on, My Effervescent Sylph. I will be with you as you do."

    Aian Lerit'r, Lead Schematicist exclaims to you, "A *paperwork* emergency, Chairman!"

  • YmuliYmuli Member Posts: 111 Gifted
    There had been no plans and very (98%, probably) strong lean towards remaining in the current alliance. It was due to IC actions and motivations that the whole thing fell out the way it did. I suspect there's a bit of a disconnect in versions of events, with both sides feeling justified in their actions. Be that as it may be, the accusation that this alliance was concocted OOCly is actually pretty far from the truth given the way the players were feeling about things. 

    That being said, yes it can be utterly frustrating to die in prime org territory. And you're right, it should feel safe for the most part. However, for a single roleplay event of this magnitude I don't really see it being a bad thing to happen once as long as it's not somehting anyone makes a habit out of because yes, then it will have a very high risk of driving people away from the game and that's the last thing anyone wants! 

    I think the timing was actual unfortunate- it would have been really awesome if there had been more people around to intitate combat because the Nil portion felt sad because our numbers were too high to actually allow Shango/Ixion/others feel confident in attempting to defend. 

    Wildeflower Aramel Strongleaf says to Xiran, "My cousin's attitude to life is rather like her attitude towards cake - to have everything, and at once, and lots of it."
  • PysynnePysynne Member Posts: 136 Adept
    I called this happening the moment the alliance was forged.

    I get to be the guy who says, "I told you so."

    That's all I have to say on the matter.
  • AlexandriaAlexandria Member Posts: 330 Virtuoso
    Re: what Ymuli said, we actually had a complete veto from one Board member on the change. Very firm 'no' - given only a few weeks ago - on now and any future possibilities relating to the idea of changing. Alas, the game being what it is, things changed. They often do. 

    Czixi, the Welkin murmurs, "Fight on, My Effervescent Sylph. I will be with you as you do."

    Aian Lerit'r, Lead Schematicist exclaims to you, "A *paperwork* emergency, Chairman!"

  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.Member Posts: 8,202 Transcendent
    Pysynne said:
    I called this happening the moment the alliance was forged.

    I get to be the guy who says, "I told you so."

    That's all I have to say on the matter.
    Yeah, if you ever logged in :(
    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • PysynnePysynne Member Posts: 136 Adept
    Shaddus said:
    Pysynne said:
    I called this happening the moment the alliance was forged.

    I get to be the guy who says, "I told you so."

    That's all I have to say on the matter.
    Yeah, if you ever logged in :(

    sorry, new job and long hours but making money comes first. This is literally the first day I have sat at my personal laptop since June 8th (when new job started)
  • UzrielUzriel Member Posts: 107 Master
    I'm not sure trying to explain reasoning OOCly is needed. Besides I'm not sure who we're trying to convince. Anybody who was around much on Ironhart can decide for themselves regarding excluding Hallifax from things. And the people who weren't in Ironhart don't need convincing.
  • KethaeraKethaera Member Posts: 883 Transcendent
    Re: what Ymuli said, we actually had a complete veto from one Board member on the change. Very firm 'no' - given only a few weeks ago - on now and any future possibilities relating to the idea of changing. Alas, the game being what it is, things changed. They often do. 
    I would call it two 'nos' from Board members on switching. The idea that anyone knew this would happen is absurd, given that if someone had asked me about it four days ago I'd have laughed.

    The timing of the attack wasn't desirable, and if there had been more people around, we wouldn't have made the crazy plan to attack people/guards at the nexus. But logistically speaking, that's the time it had to happen because that was when we were all able to be around - nothing more than that. For me, it coincided with finishing a test the the night before the first day I've had in a month with relatively "not much" to do. For all that it may seem like this was chosen at a time when Mag was quiet, sometimes it's just annoying coincidence. Halli-time seems to be slightly off from the rest of the game anyway. No one was going to kill newbies, though, we made a list of who was around at the time who had never been in involved in combat.

    @Sapphira I enjoy the hell out of public post bickering myself. On that issue at least, I don't really care which side was right, I just wanted some popcorn banter. 
    "Chairwoman," Princess Setisoki states, holding up a hand in a gesture for her to stop and returning the cup. "That would be quite inappropriate. One of the males will serve me."
  • PysynnePysynne Member Posts: 136 Adept
    Kethaera said:
    Re: what Ymuli said, we actually had a complete veto from one Board member on the change. Very firm 'no' - given only a few weeks ago - on now and any future possibilities relating to the idea of changing. Alas, the game being what it is, things changed. They often do. 
     The idea that anyone knew this would happen is absurd, given that if someone had asked me about it four days ago I'd have laughed.



    Pysynne 02/10/2020
    though I am betting we will lose halli eventually if this happens


    ------ 02/10/2020
    getting Gaudi for that is BAD BAD BAD for us
    the aeon/group combos with Glom/Halli is super strong


    Yeah we knew months ago this would happen ;) Not so absurd afterall.
  • KethaeraKethaera Member Posts: 883 Transcendent
    Pysynne said:
    Kethaera said:
    Re: what Ymuli said, we actually had a complete veto from one Board member on the change. Very firm 'no' - given only a few weeks ago - on now and any future possibilities relating to the idea of changing. Alas, the game being what it is, things changed. They often do. 
     The idea that anyone knew this would happen is absurd, given that if someone had asked me about it four days ago I'd have laughed.



    Pysynne 02/10/2020
    though I am betting we will lose halli eventually if this happens


    ------ 02/10/2020
    getting Gaudi for that is BAD BAD BAD for us
    the aeon/group combos with Glom/Halli is super strong


    Yeah we knew months ago this would happen ;) Not so absurd afterall.
    Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophesy then, huh? "Hey guys, Hallifax is going to leave us anyway, so let's shut them out of things and generally treat them like crap." 

    Checking my notes... yep, it was six days ago, according to discord, when I was last pestering Alexandria to end negotiations with Shadowlight. It was 1-2 days after that when the rejection letter was written up and ready to be mailed. I have no idea what the aeon group combos comment has to do with anything or who even said that.

    It's a shame that some in IHC(should it be IH? FIH?) have so little ability of self-reflection or humility that they can't even pretend to care whether we would help or not for long enough for ascension to end. So... ok. Good luck to you.
    "Chairwoman," Princess Setisoki states, holding up a hand in a gesture for her to stop and returning the cup. "That would be quite inappropriate. One of the males will serve me."
  • PysynnePysynne Member Posts: 136 Adept
    Kethaera said:
    Pysynne said:
    Kethaera said:
    Re: what Ymuli said, we actually had a complete veto from one Board member on the change. Very firm 'no' - given only a few weeks ago - on now and any future possibilities relating to the idea of changing. Alas, the game being what it is, things changed. They often do. 
     The idea that anyone knew this would happen is absurd, given that if someone had asked me about it four days ago I'd have laughed.



    Pysynne 02/10/2020
    though I am betting we will lose halli eventually if this happens


    ------ 02/10/2020
    getting Gaudi for that is BAD BAD BAD for us
    the aeon/group combos with Glom/Halli is super strong


    Yeah we knew months ago this would happen ;) Not so absurd afterall.
    Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophesy then, huh? "Hey guys, Hallifax is going to leave us anyway, so let's shut them out of things and generally treat them like crap." 

    Checking my notes... yep, it was six days ago, according to discord, when I was last pestering Alexandria to end negotiations with Shadowlight. It was 1-2 days after that when the rejection letter was written up and ready to be mailed. I have no idea what the aeon group combos comment has to do with anything or who even said that.

    It's a shame that some in IHC(should it be IH? FIH?) have so little ability of self-reflection or humility that they can't even pretend to care whether we would help or not for long enough for ascension to end. So... ok. Good luck to you.
    lol wut?

    What were you shut out of?

    You attended Domoths, quakes, flares, nodes... when you showed up, which was often less than Serenwilde, and that's saying something, given the near dead state of it.


    I can't make statements to Ascension as I was not around for most of the events, but from the scores it looks like you were not shut out of those either.

    So if "self fulfilling prophecy" is your takeaway...
  • AramelAramel Member Posts: 298 Mythical
    So post IG about it. There's a great public newspost fight going on and you've got plenty of opportunity to say "I told you so" there.
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  • PysynnePysynne Member Posts: 136 Adept
    Aramel said:
    So post IG about it. There's a great public newspost fight going on and you've got plenty of opportunity to say "I told you so" there.


    I get that some of you have issues with IC/OOC divides... but I do not.

    Discord conversations are quite obviously not IC.
  • KethaeraKethaera Member Posts: 883 Transcendent
    Pysynne said:
    Kethaera said:
    Pysynne said:
    Kethaera said:
    Re: what Ymuli said, we actually had a complete veto from one Board member on the change. Very firm 'no' - given only a few weeks ago - on now and any future possibilities relating to the idea of changing. Alas, the game being what it is, things changed. They often do. 
     The idea that anyone knew this would happen is absurd, given that if someone had asked me about it four days ago I'd have laughed.



    Pysynne 02/10/2020
    though I am betting we will lose halli eventually if this happens


    ------ 02/10/2020
    getting Gaudi for that is BAD BAD BAD for us
    the aeon/group combos with Glom/Halli is super strong


    Yeah we knew months ago this would happen ;) Not so absurd afterall.
    Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophesy then, huh? "Hey guys, Hallifax is going to leave us anyway, so let's shut them out of things and generally treat them like crap." 

    Checking my notes... yep, it was six days ago, according to discord, when I was last pestering Alexandria to end negotiations with Shadowlight. It was 1-2 days after that when the rejection letter was written up and ready to be mailed. I have no idea what the aeon group combos comment has to do with anything or who even said that.

    It's a shame that some in IHC(should it be IH? FIH?) have so little ability of self-reflection or humility that they can't even pretend to care whether we would help or not for long enough for ascension to end. So... ok. Good luck to you.
    lol wut?

    What were you shut out of?

    You attended Domoths, quakes, flares, nodes... when you showed up, which was often less than Serenwilde, and that's saying something, given the near dead state of it.


    I can't make statements to Ascension as I was not around for most of the events, but from the scores it looks like you were not shut out of those either.

    So if "self fulfilling prophecy" is your takeaway...
    There are public posts you can read, if you've not yet checked. Are you really making the statement - without having attended any of the events yourself - that because we were physically able to enter and compete - that means IHC was working with us as equal partners?

    In any case, this argument would be a lot more credible from someone who plays the game.
    "Chairwoman," Princess Setisoki states, holding up a hand in a gesture for her to stop and returning the cup. "That would be quite inappropriate. One of the males will serve me."
  • AlexandriaAlexandria Member Posts: 330 Virtuoso
    I was going to respond to Pysynne, but this is getting close to 'don't bother to log in to the forums for a few weeks' territory for me. Have fun, reach out IC if you actually have some interest in being IC about it. Peace out.

    Czixi, the Welkin murmurs, "Fight on, My Effervescent Sylph. I will be with you as you do."

    Aian Lerit'r, Lead Schematicist exclaims to you, "A *paperwork* emergency, Chairman!"

  • LuceLuce Fox Populi Member Posts: 2,557 Transcendent
    Pysynne said:
    Kethaera said:
    Re: what Ymuli said, we actually had a complete veto from one Board member on the change. Very firm 'no' - given only a few weeks ago - on now and any future possibilities relating to the idea of changing. Alas, the game being what it is, things changed. They often do. 
     The idea that anyone knew this would happen is absurd, given that if someone had asked me about it four days ago I'd have laughed.



    Pysynne 02/10/2020
    though I am betting we will lose halli eventually if this happens


    ------ 02/10/2020
    getting Gaudi for that is BAD BAD BAD for us
    the aeon/group combos with Glom/Halli is super strong


    Yeah we knew months ago this would happen ;) Not so absurd afterall.
    I get that some of you have issues with IC/OOC divides... but I do not.


    (Board of Directors): Nelras says, "Are we going to discuss what just happened?"
    (Board of Directors): Kethaera says, "It would seem reasonable to discuss it."
    (Board of Directors): Nelras says, "Is the perspective I presented over the alliance clan incorrect and a result of my own limited perspective?"
    (Board of Directors): Aramel says, "I do not believe so, Quintessence."
    (Board of Directors): Kethaera says, "In my estimation of the events, they ignored our requests for assistance multiple times for Kaizynne, and seemingly would have rather let a member of Glomdoring win than her."
    (Board of Directors): Nelras says, "That is rather unfortunate. I was hoping that one of you would tell me that I was mistaken, and that our allies did not choose to abandon us in such a way that almost caused our enemies to gain a seal."
    (Board of Directors): Kethaera says, "No, I support that view as well."
    (Board of Directors): Aramel says, "It was my perception as well, that it was a deliberate ploy to refuse to support us. I suspected this during the Seal of Life, but chose to give our allies the benefit of the doubt."
    (Board of Directors): Aramel says, "Nevertheless, once may be an accident. Twice? Logic says no."
    (Board of Directors): Nelras says, "Furthermore, I noted that they did not hesitate to support Malarious."
    (Board of Directors): You say, "I would like to note that such a stance is not altogether unexpected from any alliance which includes Malarious and Magnagora."
    (Board of Directors): Kethaera says, "It is not, Luce, but they have not been quite this bad until recently."
    (Board of Directors): Aramel says, "The rest of Gaudiguch has been surprisingly helpful."
    (Board of Directors): Aramel says, "I would regret to see them go. I would not regret the departure of Magnagora then."
    (Board of Directors): Kethaera says, "Indeed, but it seems that they will side with Ixion and Malarious over us, all the same."
    (Board of Directors): You say, "The Seals tend to escalate and exascerbate tensions."
    (Board of Directors): Aramel says, "Well, I think this warrants some consideration, especially given the past."
    (Board of Directors): Kethaera says, "I agree."
    (Ironhart Collective): Inanna says, "Also, anyone with a beast that can spit that I can borrow for War?" [<a/n Establishing timing]
    (Board of Directors): You say, "It is...unfortunate. The way things have proceeded thus far. The alliance, aside ironically for Gaudiguch, hasn't seemed to provide much support in general for the Commonwealth's interests."

    Hey, look, an entire, In-Character conversation immediately after Death where a bunch of people on Hallifax's ruling council talked about the issue in-character and came to the conclusion that Magnagora was more of an issue to Hallifax than Gaudiguch. But that it wasn't enough of an issue to raise a fuss about, yet.

    I wasn't privy to the conversation that led up to the change of heart, but I doubt Alexandria just woke up and decided "I'm about to mess this alliance UP. Hold my Cloudberry Tea."
  • ThalkrosThalkros Member Posts: 218 Expert
    I don’t really have a dog in the race here because I made it a point to stay out of politics when I came back to play, but Hallifax had 2 people place in Life. It was everything I could do to keep ahead of Ciaran so what was I supposed to do, hit the breaks and swap to you guys? I was hyper focused so I wasn’t paying a lot of attention to others there but placing is still great yeah? 

    I had to work on Death day but that is the one challenge where you absolutely cannot slow down for even a second, so you really have to pile on whoever has the best chance there, even if it hurts some feelings. That’s one event where the entire thing just suuuuucks. *I got ditched one year because I didn’t have a big enough lead 5 minutes in*

    I am genuinely sorry if people felt they got sandbagged in a particular Seal challenge but I also never saw a lot of pre-planning and preparation work on the IHC at all, for like any single Challenge. I saw a lot of trying to organize at the very last second, if I had seen someone asking for help preparing days prior I’d have jumped to help, because you want your side to win yeah? 

    Tldr ascension sucks, sorry if it makes people hate everyone and everything. :(
  • MalariousMalarious Member Posts: 631 Gifted
    tl;dr The slimmest of reasons for the break were given. Someone mentioned death, so I wanted to address the "sabotage" of the Death event. Read on if you are prepared.

    I will let these events hash out IG, but they look pretty OOC motivated. The rationale has been pretty flimsy.  I wanted to clear up death though, the seal I went whole hog for.

    Hallifax was never cut out, blocked, or sabotaged in this event. Period. 

    Let's start with scores, I didn't check them often, but (times are rough):

    @5 minutes: I had 445, Kaizynne was not above me.
    @20 minutes: I had 1840, Kaizynne was leading me by 95, (~4 mobs)
    @30 minutes: I had 2480, Kaizynne was leading me by 45 (~2 mobs)
    @35 minutes: I had 2675, Kaizynne was leading me by 210 (~11 mobs, now she has a perk)
    @40 minutes: I had 2830, Kaizynne was leading me by 60 (~3 mobs)

    At no point was Kaizynne just hugely in the lead to the point we dropped out. Some of Mags bashers dropped out to move to pursuit. despite not necessarily being out of it yet either. There was VERY few on support. Long story short, if a group reaches you, you are probably dying. 

    I died several times, I believe (though deathsight may have dropped) more than any other entrant from our alliance. I did not even know when I was in the lead until someone TOLD me. I did not check scores between the 40-60 minute mark. When event ended, I checked score to see how I did. I couldn't even read CT messages because I was hopping areas often. 

    I had over 20 total instant or near instant move points for bashing. I had one person with empress who saved me... twice? But generally people dropped monolith when they engaged me. I have set up some zones for mobs and had soft prepped some areas ahead of time (clearing an area is obvious, but how many of you can tell if 3 of the 25 point unnamed mobs were missing?). I knew this event was a marathon, not a sprint, and I planned and prepped for it. I had a lot more help in the last 5 minutes than I had the entire rest of the time combined. I did not presume I'd win, but by the 50 minute mark almost everything in the game worth something is dead. I literally went to areas with 5 points mobs just to keep my score building. I won by... 170? 7 mobs potentially if you had max ones?

    I like to think I just played the event, but nothing I saw, absolutely nothing suggests Hallifax was being blocked out. Even if you say  they like to back me, they couldn't save me a huge majority of the time, there is just nothing to be done. Kaizynne hunted well, and Glomdoring was pursuing me actively at the end (very actively). We pulled together and while Mag was organized, I was organizing a couple people from Gaudi to try to buy me time and a few more points. Someone mentioned death as "evidence" of Glom sabotaging them, but most of Mags own people dropped out to support. They didn't pick WHOM to support, they simply started trying to slow down the people otherwise leading. 

    Like I said, none of the reasons I have heard are even remotely convincing and a large portion of the time Hallifax would have no one show up to events or revolts to even try to provide things to. I hope some better rationale comes up, cause so far from what I have heard, it was all metagamed BS with people reaching for reasons. Mal would want to know if Mag is a problem as an ally, but no one could establish a good case or provide evidence they were. 
  • MelechMelech Member Posts: 6 Inept
    edited July 1
    Just to reiterate, our support group focused on harassing enemy point leaders and not as bodyguards for our top scorers.

    We didn't flock to anyone's help in the sense of grouping up with them and protecting them-- we helped by delaying Evette and Jaspet, and let the bashers handle their own business for the most part.

    Even at the end of the event, when it was so tightly contested, I saw two people physically with Malarious; Vexacion and Ruiku. The rest of our team was chasing Glomdoring's participants, which... literally helped everyone on our side.
  • MysraiMysrai Member, Gods Posts: 169 Divine
    While constructive discussion on these sorts of heavy alliance shifts and impactful conflict moments are always welcome in the forums,  I would like to remind everyone that we would heavily prefer it to remain civil. Let's avoid intentionally antagonising anyone or stoking fires, and instead take a few moments to reread before posting to make sure that we aren't cultivating a topic that will solely serve to upset other people. 

    Be excellent to each other. If you are already being excellent, carry on. If you are not, I advise you consider doing so.  That is all.
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  • ZelrothZelroth Member Posts: 1 Inept
    Mysrai said:
    While constructive discussion on these sorts of heavy alliance shifts and impactful conflict moments are always welcome in the forums,  I would like to remind everyone that we would heavily prefer it to remain civil. Let's avoid intentionally antagonising anyone or stoking fires, and instead take a few moments to reread before posting to make sure that we aren't cultivating a topic that will solely serve to upset other people. 

    Be excellent to each other. If you are already being excellent, carry on. If you are not, I advise you consider doing so.  That is all.

    Don't upset the nooblets!
  • ShangoShango Member Posts: 167 Capable
    Given I have been one of those upset by much of this...mm. Suppose nooblet is fair though.
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