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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
Can you please explain how you feel that the second suggestion makes Ixion any less of a TA? In this scenario, Ixion would be equivalent to both Yendor & me as a TA, but Choros would have gained a little extra perk that he shared with his team.
I think I missed your saying that being anything less than a full TA mechanics-wise would be a violation of your lines, but it is useful to know.
Xenthos
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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
@Afollia You have a good idea there, actually. Why NOT events for both? Who the hell says there can't be, outside of planning/coding concerns. Raising Ixion can come first since that's already under way, but can also work in or extend to a further event for the other side to celebrate. MORE RP events is almost never a bad thing.
Just no Plagues. -_-
Edit: Also yes, the lag I always felt was a direct result of Kethuru. Time being a creation just like any other concept in the formless potential of the Void, works out well. Especially with a Time Seal now able to be in the mix. Let's expound on the lore all in!
Shango
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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
So, reading this, instead of focusing on diminishing the other side ? Why not just hold something special to celebrate each alliance's efforts. IHC has a lovely event to ascend their TA and Glom/Celest/Hallifax get a little something with Partoleon to celebrate sealing away Kehturu or a follow up Roleplay after sealing away Kethuru?
An event that builds on the end of ascension roleplay wise and offers closure for both sides. It feels like that might be a lovely idea and mend quite a bit in the process.
There's no reasons both sides couldnt even get involved in a culmination that would celebrate everyone that fought so hard post ascension and bring people togheter.
It feels like unity as a themed event moving forward would be really important to help people be drawn togheter, beyond the themes of Wyrd, taint, light, nature & Etc.
Edit: You could even RP off the Lag as something that was caused by Kehturu ♥
An event that builds on the end of ascension roleplay wise and offers closure for both sides. It feels like that might be a lovely idea and mend quite a bit in the process.
There's no reasons both sides couldnt even get involved in a culmination that would celebrate everyone that fought so hard post ascension and bring people togheter.
It feels like unity as a themed event moving forward would be really important to help people be drawn togheter, beyond the themes of Wyrd, taint, light, nature & Etc.
Edit: You could even RP off the Lag as something that was caused by Kehturu ♥
Afollia
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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
A whipped cream on top for Parhelion might be just the thing. Dunno what it would be though.
Maligorn
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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
Orael said:Because it means that you're getting something and they're not because they had bad luck with lag that potentially ruined their chances. It's back to the same thought process as why I don't think 2 TA's for your side is fair when only giving one to them.Xenthos said:Can you please explain how you feel that the second suggestion makes Ixion any less of a TA? In this scenario, Ixion would be equivalent to both Yendor & me as a TA, but Choros would have gained a little extra perk that he shared with his team.I think I missed your saying that being anything less than a full TA mechanics-wise would be a violation of your lines, but it is useful to know.
Just to be clear here- we were never taking away that Parhelion got to 3600 first.
I may be misunderstanding this, but Orael, you've stated that you didn't mean to take away the "win", or to insinuate that Shadowlight didn't "win", but I'm not seeing how that dovetails with this insistence that only IHC had bad luck with lag, or that the people who got to 3600 first shouldn't get something above and beyond in recognition of that fact.
Aramel
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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
Mboagn said:They already acknowledged that they knew it was going to ruffle feathers any which way. From their assessment, this was the best solution out of a basket of bad solutions.
Why is stopping here the best solution? Why is acknowledging the winning side's win in any capacity unreasonable? As of this point, the winning side and the losing side are entirely equivalent. Something was done outside the realm of the normal for one side- and not for the other. There is nothing acknowledging that one side won and one side lost- both have "won", now.
I'll circle back to:
"Are we just barking up the wrong tree here? Is this really the
end, the final decision, there's nothing else that you are willing to do
whatsoever? Because I think we've all been very open with stating how
we feel. We've laid everything we have out for you. It's not
speculation any more- you know exactly how it's come across to us
because we've all told you.
If the answer is really "Nah, this is it," then... well, I guess it'd be good to know. We can all give up trying to let you know how we feel / what we think."
Because that's what I need an answer to at this point.If the answer is really "Nah, this is it," then... well, I guess it'd be good to know. We can all give up trying to let you know how we feel / what we think."
Xenthos
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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
Orael said:Ok, Here's what's happening
So when we consider our decisions on what to do to make it the most fair for both parties, it comes down to really two options - we either remove Parhelion as TA (and neither side gets one) or we raise Ixion (and both sides get one). We decided to not remove Parhelion and instead of raise Ixion. No bonus, no extra, just a TA for both sides.
I won't say that there isn't anything else we're willing to do, but I haven't really seen any solution that comes across to me as more fair -for everyone- presented here.
So, for who's goal was to stop Ixion, removing Parhelion as a TA would be the acceptable outcome. For Celest (who's major RP is stop the taint by any costs) this fits in line with them. For Hallifax, one of the major reasons for leaving the IHC is because of Magnagora and Ixion, this fits in line with a lot of those that agree with this move.
Other accepted outcomes?
Descend Parhelion and say no TA this year (as talked about above)
If you want to have two ascendants, give Ixion free VA. This is largely the same, but doesn't have the same special RP honor that comes with being a TA.
Ayisdra
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Re: Lusternian AMA
To no one's surprise, my favorite bits of admin-created lore are around the centaurs. Especially since I've watched the lore grow and evolve based directly on player input. The stories around Tokota, the colts, how they've grown and changed, are emotional.
As for lore I don't like... hmm... despite the attempts of many a leader and influencer to shift the focus of Serenwilde toward the more interesting aspects of ancestor worship, blood magic, and hidden wild secrets, there's still an overarching feel and theme of "recovering what was lost". It's an impossible goal and ends up causing a lot of frustration.
Everiine
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Re: Announce Post #3061: Ascension Postmortem
Goddamn. Every time another one of these posts comes up, my heart bleeds for Choros.
Choros if you're still by any chance seeing this happen i am really really sorry and just want to give you a hug. You're a Lusternian institution and the way you've held your head high during all this.....damn. People are the worst. Not everyone treats people like this, i swear.
Choros if you're still by any chance seeing this happen i am really really sorry and just want to give you a hug. You're a Lusternian institution and the way you've held your head high during all this.....damn. People are the worst. Not everyone treats people like this, i swear.
Sapphira
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