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Re: QUOTES 8: THE QUOTING

Eritheyl said:

Double post, don't @ me. Here's Akyaevin and Ironbeard, my new Lusternian OTP:

The rowdy notes of a drinking song, faint at first, then rising to the undisputed intensity of a
Dwarf On A Mission, herald the arrival of Ironbeard the Magnanimous who casts his beam of a
smile about himself as he arrives.
Ironbeard the Magnanimous hiccups and says, "Special people like Ashley deserve something
special on special days."

"Haha!" laughs Silvanos.

You rush up to Ashley and throw your hands into the air, giving a loud "WOO!"

A dusky red manticore with a voluminous mane of rust-colour fur rears back and unhinges
his jaws, releasing bolts of lightning that spread across the surrounding area.

With a great cry, Ironbeard the Magnanimous rushes forward and rams Akyaevin with his
expansive stomach. Akyaevin falls to the ground in surprise.

Lord Akyaevin n'Lochli says, "OH DEAR."

You say, "Akyaevin no."

You say, "AKYAEVIN NO."

With a trilling chirp, Couturier Silvanos Lunarose, Viniculturist says, "NOOOO."

Akyaevin is propelled to the north upon a pogo stick.

-

Revelrous Afrit Dahyu, Lazula of the Sands says, "Oh, he left."

You yell, "Clear!"

Akyaevin lands bouncing upon a pogo stick from the north.

The rowdy notes of a drinking song, faint at first, then rising to the undisputed intensity of a
Dwarf On A Mission, herald the arrival of Ironbeard the Magnanimous who casts his beam of a
smile about himself as he arrives.
Ironbeard the Magnanimous hiccups and says, "Special people like Xisiro deserve something
special on special days."

Ironbeard the Magnanimous lifts his battleaxe with surprising swiftness and raises it above his
head. With a downward swing, Ironbeard the Magnanimous smashes the blade into Akyaevin's
shoulder, nearly taking off his arm.

Producing a pewter flagon from his satchel, Ironbeard the Magnanimous lets loose an angry
roar and strikes Akyaevin square across the jaw.

Lord Akyaevin n'Lochli says, "OH NO."

You yell, "WAIT HE'S BACK."

Hooligan Xisiro Dahyu, Goon of Okorushi says, "He's back!"

Akyaevin is propelled to the north upon a pogo stick.

-

Akyaevin lands bouncing upon a pogo stick from the north.

The rowdy notes of a drinking song, faint at first, then rising to the undisputed intensity of a
Dwarf On A Mission, herald the arrival of Ironbeard the Magnanimous who casts his beam of a
smile about himself as he arrives.
Laughing deeply, Ironbeard the Magnanimous proclaims, "Merry Solstice, Vyell!"

Super late in responding to this, but @Akyaevin going "OH DEAR" still has me cracking up, lol.

Alarin

She holds the position of one of the The Barker in the Goon Squad.

I really hate how sloppy and unpolished this looks. Can we get rid of the forced plural in the honors line, and just change it to "holds the position of Blah in Bleh"? Let guilds decide if it should be singular (by including their own article) or running with plurals in the position title itself. Please, I'm begging you.

Note: Hallifaxian guilds rolled with this in perfect form, making all of their positions into groups. This is great, and it works for them! But forcing that structure on what's supposed to be player-determined, even in such a small way as this, wounds me.

Eritheyl

Re: Artifact Ideas

1)You can submit designs straight to the public catalogue without going through a cartel master for any trade.

2) you can submit designs into the city/commune/order cartel and any cartels you are a member of, without the trademaster of that cartel having to submit it personally. It is still subject to the approval of the trademaster of the cartel in question.

Isser

"Will. You. Give. Up?"

Hello again! It has been a long couple months with holidays, extreme illness (not C-19), work intensity and general potato brains. But things have still been happening quietly in the background for Gurashi; in @Mysrai's Order, in the politics of the city of New Celest, and in their increasingly desperate attempts at getting unenemied to their first home! It's been an emotional roller coaster, as most things are!

A Tall Order: A Task for the Shofets - A playdate on the beach with a gaggle of friends (Cheliyi, Ferne, and Esei) on the beach turns into one of the most important tasks Gurashi's ever been given!

<-- After a 2 week delay due to illness, finally went and idled in @Lantra's Fulcrux for 30 mins after Gurashi's initial 'i need to talk to you' prayer! (next time I will just drop thing, pray, and boogie)

A Response from the Empyreal - Only a few IC days after idling about the Fulcrux, Gurashi received a response... Not that it was one they weren't expecting. But that did not make it feel any differently!

What do I tell Them. - Failing is hard.

MEANWHILE
"May your desires..." - After many discreet requests for possible updates to their remedying their enemy status to the Glomdoring, Gurashi finally gets word from the Lady of Roses Herself, via Her lovely messenger, @Kreon. There is... hope?

"Do not fail Me." - A visit from Aschwar themselves to deliver a powerful message...

I promise to add more things as they happen! It is scary! It is exciting! The cost is too great to give up!
(and have a doodle post-Lantra meeting)

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5020142/uploads/editor/ly/g01r6judseq1.png

Gurashi

Re: Configurable set of text gauges for health/mana/ego/power for Mudlet

These look adorable!

Uilani

Re: Could lusternian lore benefit from being codified and made accessible to new players?

Jatius said:

See the Lusternia wiki for how well that goes, unfortunately. Not that I'm trying to poopoo the idea. I love the idea. But it does require a dedicated corps of individuals to keep up, and often times such ends up disappearing.

I don't know if it's still the case, but for years the Lusternia wiki wasn't an open wiki--you had to be invited to be able to contribute to it. It was very hard to get anything put on it. There were rules about what was and what was not allowed to be shared (quest information was a big no-no).

A truly independent, open wiki would have been nice, where everything about the game could be recorded.

Everiine

Re: Upcoming Economy Rework and Goals

Luce said:

Xenthos said:

I'm curious why your two viable paths exclude:
"Increase commodity availability and address tradeskill gating" - why don't you see that as viable? Sure, you could add things in where people can craft things and sell them off to gold to npcs as an alternative to hunting or whatever, but I'm not sure why you're only presenting two options that both require a lot of work when it feels like the simplest solution is just put it back to the way it worked for years, while potentially adding a few other outlets / reasons for trades along the way.

Because we've already been down that path and it still leaves a wide open gap that doesn't feel right. Tradeskills still can't make money, but are still 'required' until you spend enough goop and credits to opt out over time. It's not commodities or skill gating that's holding back tattoists, it's the fact that someone needs tattoos all of once and will likely only pay you a pittance for your time that you could have instead spent bashing to make more gold, xp, and DC. People don't go chef to sell any of their mechanically beneficial platters, kabobs, and treats, they do it to refine 34 pies for Gioia or so they can herofete for free, or just to sell a bowl of ice cream every few weeks for the arrpees. It's another can-kick to push the issue down the road for a few months until the cracks are exposed again. If tradeskills aren't meant to matter, then let's clear out the stuff that makes it look like they do. If they are meant to matter, let them.

That open gap is also seemingly the issues that people have actually been asking for a resolution to for what... 10-15 years now?

Dissatisfaction with the economy was a big part of the forums blow up a few years back, for example. These same core issues of profitability and availability were still present then as they are now. And, as always really (even now lets be honest), when players started actually talking about how those issues could be resolved other players started arguing that it only needed a minor or quick fix.

Goop wares, increased scarcity of commodities, and aethertrading were among those quick fixes that would allegedly avoid investing a lot of time and work into fixing the economy. They were meant to try to bring value to trading and to address item availability, but all those quick fixes have really just added up to the situation we're in now.

It seems pretty clear by this point that quick fixes just don't work in this context and worse, they may have not only actually consumed time for their creation but potentially also have just made the actual rework require even more time.

A pretty simple example is that goop generation wasn't a part of the economy back then where now a rework has to also consider goop generation mechanisms possibly requiring additional coding time to replace/enhance aethertrading separate from aspects addressing those initial issues.
The quick fix arguments are also typically responsible for inflating the number of consumables that exist because it was quicker/easier to make new stuff or have promotional items significantly more readily available than invest time into the broader level issues. Pipetanks, teardrop sigils, sorcelglass, etc seem to be all just quick fixes to give those trades something to sell in shops, for example.

edit: In the end, Lusternia has always managed to attract players who have wanted to invest in trading. Dissuading newbies early on from the view that trades can be profitable is still happening regularly enough that it should be rather concerning given other views that we aren't really getting many true newbies.
Even if you made it abundantly clear on the website that the game wasn't for people interested in that, let's be honest you're still going to get people asking the question and then being disappointed when the answer is no.
Meanwhile, resolving it would ideally broaden the types of players Lusternia can appeal to rather than limiting such.

Saran

Re: QUOTES 8: THE QUOTING

With links to explain my confusion >.>

Iatira: Hey, I got an aspergillum! I touched it and Carakhan appeared.

Me in my head: ....What the heck does Carakhan have to do with mold and mushroms?

Parhelion

Re: Upcoming Economy Rework and Goals

1. Commodities is the big shortage. Fruit especially is an issue even for Magnagora which is likely along with Serenwilde probably has the best (only?) generation of it with Estelbar/Acknor. Tattoos was mentioned. Enchantments can also be a problem if you want to get an enchantment on a specific item as opposed to just buying a random ring that has it already applied, then good luck. Returning after a long absence to find everything gone can also be quite overwhelming too - though getting that package of essentials is a big help on this (I know new characters do, can't recall if returning characters do).

2. Excluding aethertrading, I am doubtful that playing as a merchant/shopkeeper is really a viable way to make money in comparison to time that could be spent bashing/questing. There's a big tendency for people to undercut driving prices down (seriously, I doubt player trades can be profitable for this reason alone, which I don't think any system can fix), or if you can catch a friend with the trade, they will generally make jewelery/clothes/forged items at no cost if comms are provided. There may be a few trades (herbs, alchemy, selling golden tonics, etc) or niches that are exceptions but not the rule.

3. No idea on number 3.

4. I personally don't have a problem with the existing systems in place or there being an economy system of some kind. My concern in a "fix" that adds a ton of new must-have upkeep items, and see point 2 for why I don't think that would actually make trades profitable.

As I've stated earlier, I personally don't view shopkeeping/trades as a money maker but as a creative outlet, so my answers are from that point of view.

Uzriel

Re: QUOTES 8: THE QUOTING

Ianir said:

Alarin said:

So... did you ever get that crocodile or dreamsauce, @Ianir?

No, and after hearing what some people thought dreamsauce was, I have no desire for it now.

Still offering to stitch you that crocodile if someone gets me 11 crocodile heads and some yarn, though.

Aeldra