Taste the Rainbow!

Estarra

Share your new screenshots of your new colour schemes using the expanded colour palette!

See Announce 2394.

If you don't have a supported client, try the web client:
http://client.lusternia.com/

Daganev

The nice thing about the webclient, is you don't need to take a screenshot, you can copy paste!

A starving Lirangsha scholar exclaims, "Beware the Dominators, Niun!"

You say, "Hello."

You say, "Hello."

Portius

Questions: Can we use these new colors for stage effects? If we can and do, what do people who don't have a client that supports it see?

Ssaliss

I'm guessing this comes into effect in those cases:

In the case where you happen to have configured colours in the extended range, and then either disable xterm sequences or switch to a client that does not support them, Lusternia will automatically downsample the colours into the ANSI colour range.

Ieptix

I haven't enabled extended colours anywhere beyond colour configs yet. Stage effects are certainly a place I can look into adding them, though.

And Ssaliss is correct regarding how Rapture will handle it for those without xterm enabled.

Ieptix

Also, for anyone curious, this is how colours are downsampled when necessary (the differences in foreground and background downsampling in some places are the result of basic ANSI sequences allowing a further-restricted set of values for background colours):

Drocilla

Arcanis

Ieptix said:

I haven't enabled extended colours anywhere beyond colour configs yet. Stage effects are certainly a place I can look into adding them, though.

And Ssaliss is correct regarding how Rapture will handle it for those without xterm enabled.

OH MY ESTARRA! Having these able to be used in Stage colors would make them so fantastic. People could take customization on a stage to a new level

Haezon

I will take back everything bad I ever said about Lusternia if the colours get made usable by the stage. Gimme gimme gimme.

EDIT: thank you for introducing a brown colour, It is something I sincerely noticed when thinking aesthetically.

Arcanis

colors! Turned out bigger than I thought.



Guild brown for geos.
City red for Mag.
Deathsight grey for morbid
Family black for even morbidder
Crux fiery for battle
Relayer fun colors for fun chat
Ship purple-green for coolness.
Estarra name posh pink for esty

edit (naturally I kid)

Moi

Question: Is there a way to make this work on mushclient? If so, how? If not, should I take the plunge and switch to mudlet?

Altrea

Iytha said:

Question: Is there a way to make this work on mushclient? If so, how? If not, should I take the plunge and switch to mudlet?

It works right out of the box on MUSHclient for me. What version are you running? (It'll be in Help->About MUSHclient, or you can Note(Version()) as a script to see it as well)

EDIT: Disregard that question. Did some digging, and Rapture(Lusternia's Engine) uses MTTS to detect if a client can support the 256 colour scheme. While MUSHclient has supported the scheme since 4.03 (released in April 2007), and MTTS has technically always been supported if you want to write extra code for it, MTTS support was only added as a built in thing in 4.93 (released July 2014). I recommend updating to the current version (as of this comment, 4.95). All of your stuff -should- work post-upgrade, and it shouldn't require any changes in your scripts. You can find it on the MUSHclient forums in the announcement section, or for a shortcut, the following link: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=12633

Moi

Ahah. I was still on 484. Thanks, Altera!

Ieptix

So long as your client supports 256 colours, you can also CONFIG XTERM ON in-game to manually enable them if autonegotiation isn't possible for whatever reason.

Moi

For a data point, I logged in in a version of mushclient that didn't support it initially and then switched over to an updated version that did. It did not autonegotiate, but CONFIG XTERM ON worked fine. Probably due to it being the same session or something like that, though.

Maligorn

Strangely, while my citytells are coloured 147, whenever anybody but myself speaks on the aether, their color is reverted to color 6. This is lame. Please fix.

Eritheyl

Sorry, but I hate this. The colors I'm unable to config (WHO entries, ambient text, etc) have all reverted to being dark and impossible to read for me. It's overwriting my client settings whether it's config'd on or not, making the game basically unplayable for my very sensitive eyes.

Morshoth

Also, it seems CONFIG XTERM turns on every time you log on (I'm guessing through a supported client). Can you make it so if you CONFIG XTERM OFF, it doesn't use these colors at all, ever?

Lillie

Arcanis said:

Ieptix said:

I haven't enabled extended colours anywhere beyond colour configs yet. Stage effects are certainly a place I can look into adding them, though.

And Ssaliss is correct regarding how Rapture will handle it for those without xterm enabled.

OH MY ESTARRA! Having these able to be used in Stage colors would make them so fantastic. People could take customization on a stage to a new level

Could, yes.

There's a lot of can in the stage mechanics. And not a lot of do.

Rialorm

Morshoth said:

Also, it seems CONFIG XTERM turns on every time you log on (I'm guessing through a supported client). Can you make it so if you CONFIG XTERM OFF, it doesn't use these colors at all, ever?

Sounds like a bug, really, or at least something unintended.

Moi

It's doing the opposite for me, automatically turning itself off when I had it on.

Ieptix

Xterm will automatically default to off unless your client specifically supports negotiation of the protocol. This is by design, since if it stayed on and you later logged in with a client lacking negotiation and color support, bad things happen (to you, it doesn't effect us in any way).

Morshoth

Ieptix said:

Xterm will automatically default to off unless your client specifically supports negotiation of the protocol. This is by design, since if it stayed on and you later logged in with a client lacking negotiation and color support, bad things happen (to you, it doesn't effect us in any way).

I'll bug it, but mine keeps turning itself back on. I turned it on to play with it, but on my phone, the client I'm using doesn't support it, and I'll go to do certain things and the text will be gone unless I CONFIG XTERM OFF again.

Xenthos

Ieptix said:

Xterm will automatically default to off unless your client specifically supports negotiation of the protocol. This is by design, since if it stayed on and you later logged in with a client lacking negotiation and color support, bad things happen (to you, it doesn't effect us in any way).

I am having issues with this.  I logged in and most of my colours are broken.  They got set to colours that I can't even use.  For example:
pf              95   0  (pf): You say, "Blah."
deathwyrm      121   0  (deathwyrm): You say, "Blah."

config colour pf 95
You cannot set the foreground colour to "95".

I don't even know what colours I had on all my clans, but they are now really broken and it is bugging me.  Is there any way to get all of these numbers reset to what they were pre-change, when XTerm is not enabled?

Xenthos

The Divine voice of (Ieptix the Anomaly) echoes in your head, "Look better now?"

Ieptix is so cool. 

Eritheyl

Eritheyl said:

Sorry, but I hate this. The colors I'm unable to config (WHO entries, ambient text, etc) have all reverted to being dark and impossible to read for me. It's overwriting my client settings whether it's config'd on or not, making the game basically unplayable for my very sensitive eyes.

Turning it off apparently now properly turns it off. Huzzah, I can read my screen again.

Ialie

Daganev said:

The nice thing about the webclient, is you don't need to take a screenshot, you can copy paste!

A starving Lirangsha scholar exclaims, "Beware the Dominators, Niun!"

You say, "Hello."

You say, "Hello."

I love the copy paste feature! I really like the new client!

Daganev

Ialie said:

Daganev said:

The nice thing about the webclient, is you don't need to take a screenshot, you can copy paste!

A starving Lirangsha scholar exclaims, "Beware the Dominators, Niun!"

You say, "Hello."

You say, "Hello."

I love the copy paste feature! I really like the new client!

Welcome back!

Ieptix

Morshoth said:

Ieptix said:

Xterm will automatically default to off unless your client specifically supports negotiation of the protocol. This is by design, since if it stayed on and you later logged in with a client lacking negotiation and color support, bad things happen (to you, it doesn't effect us in any way).

I'll bug it, but mine keeps turning itself back on. I turned it on to play with it, but on my phone, the client I'm using doesn't support it, and I'll go to do certain things and the text will be gone unless I CONFIG XTERM OFF again.

I'll see if I can adjust the config setting to remember if you've turned it off, though the negotiation is part of IRE-wide code that I can't touch directly, so I can't make any promises. Before I do that, though, I'd like to catch you when you're logged in at some point so I can check some stuff related to the colour negotiation, since it shouldn't be enabling it if your client doesn't support colours; is it possible your client has support for it, but you have them toggled off in your settings somewhere?

Morshoth

Ieptix said:

Morshoth said:

Ieptix said:

Xterm will automatically default to off unless your client specifically supports negotiation of the protocol. This is by design, since if it stayed on and you later logged in with a client lacking negotiation and color support, bad things happen (to you, it doesn't effect us in any way).

I'll bug it, but mine keeps turning itself back on. I turned it on to play with it, but on my phone, the client I'm using doesn't support it, and I'll go to do certain things and the text will be gone unless I CONFIG XTERM OFF again.

I'll see if I can adjust the config setting to remember if you've turned it off, though the negotiation is part of IRE-wide code that I can't touch directly, so I can't make any promises. Before I do that, though, I'd like to catch you when you're logged in at some point so I can check some stuff related to the colour negotiation, since it shouldn't be enabling it if your client doesn't support colours; is it possible your client has support for it, but you have them toggled off in your settings somewhere?

Anything is possible, I suppose. I just know that I can't see some things when it's on, and when I turn it off, i can. One I noticed yesterday was checking ABs.

Everiine

Ieptix said:

I'll see if I can adjust the config setting to remember if you've turned it off, though the negotiation is part of IRE-wide code that I can't touch directly, so I can't make any promises. Before I do that, though, I'd like to catch you when you're logged in at some point so I can check some stuff related to the colour negotiation, since it shouldn't be enabling it if your client doesn't support colours; is it possible your client has support for it, but you have them toggled off in your settings somewhere?

*sigh*

"It's broken, but we can't fix it, because we aren't allowed to."

I'm sorry you have to go through all this. If it's not working, you should be allowed to fix it.