Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
edited April 2015
Edit: Davos is right. I'll just take a step back. Thanks for your input, @Steingrim. I appreciate it, even if you're trying to mischaracterize what I've said. Hopefully that won't happen moving forward!
There seems to be a lot of combat/alliance rage in the recent week on the forums. I just want to remind everyone to take a step back and remember that if you aren't having fun doing what you're doing, do something else.
Nobody else is responsible for your fun in this game. We are all here on a volunteer basis for ourselves, so make it fun for yourself if you can. There are lots of areas for distraction in Lusternia so take a break from combat for a couple of days, and work on that aetherepic or cityepic, If you've completed both of those, try to code something that'd help your city out!
I have a lot more fun when I stopped trying to make the game meld to my expectations and instead melded my expectations around the game.
Congratulations! By order of Newt Blasterson, you've been named a Master of the Aetherways! 2015/12/09 23:54:29 - Pejat drained 2000000 power to raise Davos as a Vernal Ascendant. You use 80,000,000 of your divine essence. You gain BeauteousThought as a supernumerary power.
Woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah… Lois, this is not my batman glass Don't look at me my food is only for herofetes, tea parties, my shop, anyone I meet, the animals I meet…
I was going to make several replies pointing out all the fallacies, inaccuricies, and apparent confusion posted up, but then realized I shouldnt be wasting my time trying to convince a crow it is white (those that know my mount will get that joke). I'll just put a few notes as a general reply to all.
1. "To pay back for Ascendance" isnt about Glom ascending someone, it was about the True Ascendance where Glom switched on the very day with Xenthos puffing out his chest and making a big post proclaiming to the world. If this was still Old Mag, Glomdoring would be nothing but splinters at this point.
2. "Glomdoring is doomed" wasnt that a single man would destroy it, im not delusional. It was that Glom has next no members left or any real fighters and has the tendencies to turn allies and people away. Additionally the general atmosphere in it is just a toxic environment. The guilds consider themselves more independant associations rather than part of Glomdoring. I just didnt want to bother with attempting to 'appease' all anymore.
3. To the people that state they contacted me. Firstly Celina your first contact to me was insults and harassment, of course im going to ignore you. You're not known for your people skills. Lerad, I explained to you that Glomdoring needed to be punished and would be. I do believe the term I used and have been continously using is "All actions have consequences, and Glom will not get away without punishment".
Frankly this is all im going to say about this tiresome topic. Im not going to bother starting a 'post war' here, because there is no real victory in it. It is far more appealing to earn victories in the game. As I said to several from the start of my mission "Glomdoring had already lost", simply based on logic. You cant keep your elders upkept all the time, and you cant be around to always stop the fires and killing of Daughters. Basically I was (and likely might in the future) harvesting lumber until it equated to the cost of "An ascension", I made up to 40k in a bankaccount (was curious how high it would get) from sold lumber. You'd have to figure out how much an ascension costs.
I find it rather amusing that you're essentially blaming Glomdoring for Mag losing Ascension in the same breath as you say that Glomdoring is dead with next to no people left. Also, you conveniently ignore the fact that Marcella decided to declare war on Glomdoring, citing she was backed by the Iron Council. Of course we're not going to back Mag up at that point.
I find it rather amusing that you're essentially blaming Glomdoring for Mag losing Ascension in the same breath as you say that Glomdoring is dead with next to no people left. Also, you conveniently ignore the fact that Marcella decided to declare war on Glomdoring, citing she was backed by the Iron Council. Of course we're not going to back Mag up at that point.
I remember being a bit sad when Ixion asked for help during Ascension too... and having to say... "Considering how your leader treats Hallifax and myself personally... I will have to decline." It made me feel like an ass, but it had to be done. Still, not sure why you expect Magnagora to fess up to their own mistakes. Their stance has pretty much been... "We don't care whose fault it is, as long as it's not ours". I know, I know... I'm generalizing based on a few people's actions and words but it's not up to me to point out and fix other orgs' attitudes.
Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it.
I do wish that all of the experienced and dedicated PKers would not clump into the same organization/alliance, since it inevitably turns into an unhealthy PK dynamic. But I certainly understand wanting to play with your friends and the winners (that's really not sarcastic - I get it).
That said, @Celina, I think you're a little impatient to have things your way, which probably doesn't sit well with people on all sides, especially when you've just come back and it's like, "Who the hell is this hag?" I'm not sure why you're judging your displeasure based on raiding woes. I think you would have fun just joining Gaudi/Mag in more conflict events, and that's where everyone fights nowadays anyway. I also think that Celest would be more empathetic with leaving you alone (and not helping Seren) if you didn't go out of your way to try to piss them off, but I probably didn't have to say that. You know what you're doing.
I'm definitely impatient. I totally admit to antagonizing Celest, and it's actually not Celest that bugs me! I'm cool with the conflict there, both sides RP it out, it's copacetic. I honestly have no OOC issue with how Celest is doing things, it's purely RP. Getting attacked/jumped is actually more exciting than the tedium or repetitious raids for me. It's really how my side reacts to it, and it's characters I've played with forever. It's being bored and wanting to engage in PK my side constantly pulling on the reigns, and then wagging their finger over something stupid like walking in on the Gaudi v celest/halli/seren ordeal. I actually had no idea what was going on, I saw someone die to lobs, went to check it out and got a tahto to the face, then a shofa to the face, and so I stuck around. I explain that to my side and the Court goes "oh you should have just left." What. The first interesting bout of PK for me in a while, and I didn't even start it, and they want me to just peace out. I didn't even complain about Kierstin attacking me, I get it. It was assumed I was part of the gank and so I was targeted. We PK'd it out. I was cool. Then I get bitchy referendums about me and drama. The PK is fun, when I can find it, the drama is getting old.
Part of it is also I just hate leading, and I inevitably end up leading raids just because I'm obvious PK person and I collect people in my entourage just by being present. I'm a decentish teacher (sometimes. maybe.), but people tend to just die when I lead. It's probably selfish, but yeah, it's PKing with friends and people who know what they are doing that is the most exciting.
@Celina for the record, I wasn't mad we fought, after you explained your side, I did realize I acted against you first thinking you were apart of the group. I don't think I was a douche about it though, was I?
Ahaha.If it were old mag, glom would be splinters? What a statement with nothing to back it up. Here, let me add something for you. If it were old mag, you'd be out of an org to play in.
The entire of your post came right out to admit your goal from the start was nothing but harassment. And you have the stomach to claim some kind of moral high ground. If there's anything toxic in this game, it's you. Munsia at her worst brought more fun to the game than you ever will. It'd help if you never replied again, god knows you're one of the few things in this game that makes me nauseous.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
I do wish that all of the experienced and dedicated PKers would not clump into the same organization/alliance, since it inevitably turns into an unhealthy PK dynamic. But I certainly understand wanting to play with your friends and the winners (that's really not sarcastic - I get it).
That said, @Celina, I think you're a little impatient to have things your way, which probably doesn't sit well with people on all sides, especially when you've just come back and it's like, "Who the hell is this hag?" I'm not sure why you're judging your displeasure based on raiding woes. I think you would have fun just joining Gaudi/Mag in more conflict events, and that's where everyone fights nowadays anyway. I also think that Celest would be more empathetic with leaving you alone (and not helping Seren) if you didn't go out of your way to try to piss them off, but I probably didn't have to say that. You know what you're doing.
I'm definitely impatient. I totally admit to antagonizing Celest, and it's actually not Celest that bugs me! I'm cool with the conflict there, both sides RP it out, it's copacetic. I honestly have no OOC issue with how Celest is doing things, it's purely RP. Getting attacked/jumped is actually more exciting than the tedium or repetitious raids for me. It's really how my side reacts to it, and it's characters I've played with forever. It's being bored and wanting to engage in PK my side constantly pulling on the reigns, and then wagging their finger over something stupid like walking in on the Gaudi v celest/halli/seren ordeal. I actually had no idea what was going on, I saw someone die to lobs, went to check it out and got a tahto to the face, then a shofa to the face, and so I stuck around. I explain that to my side and the Court goes "oh you should have just left." What. The first interesting bout of PK for me in a while, and I didn't even start it, and they want me to just peace out. I didn't even complain about Kierstin attacking me, I get it. It was assumed I was part of the gank and so I was targeted. We PK'd it out. I was cool. Then I get bitchy referendums about me and drama. The PK is fun, when I can find it, the drama is getting old.
Part of it is also I just hate leading, and I inevitably end up leading raids just because I'm obvious PK person and I collect people in my entourage just by being present. I'm a decentish teacher (sometimes. maybe.), but people tend to just die when I lead. It's probably selfish, but yeah, it's PKing with friends and people who know what they are doing that is the most exciting.
@Celina for the record, I wasn't mad we fought, after you explained your side, I did realize I acted against you first thinking you were apart of the group. I don't think I was a douche about it though, was I?
No! Not at all. I don't even mind we fought. I even told people I totally get why you did, I probably would have done the same.
3. To the people that state they contacted me. Firstly Celina your first contact to me was insults and harassment, of course im going to ignore you. You're not known for your people skills. Lerad, I explained to you that Glomdoring needed to be punished and would be. I do believe the term I used and have been continously using is "All actions have consequences, and Glom will not get away without punishment".
lol@harassment. Lolx2@calling out someone's "people skills."
Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
Edit: Davos is right. I'll just take a step back. Thanks for your input, @Steingrim. I appreciate it, even if you're trying to mischaracterize what I've said. Hopefully that won't happen moving forward!
None was intentionally meant. If I misunderstood, I apologize.
Edit: I'll point out that my comments were not meant to be about north vs south. It just gets old people bringing up that classflex is apocalyptic. This isn't the first few months of classflexing. We don't have to theorycraft about the effects of classflexing.
Im so tempted to make yet another emotion martyr. A character who everyone ends up hating, almost united by their hared, and completely forgets about squabbles. Sort of a Hitler alt. but i dont think it would help nowadays.
Edit: Davos is right. I'll just take a step back. Thanks for your input, @Steingrim. I appreciate it, even if you're trying to mischaracterize what I've said. Hopefully that won't happen moving forward!
None was intentionally meant. If I misunderstood, I apologize.
Edit: I'll point out that my comments were not meant to be about north vs south. It just gets old people bringing up that classflex is apocalyptic. This isn't the first few months of classflexing. We don't have to theorycraft about the effects of classflexing.
I don't think anyone has said is apocalyptic. RP and lore are Lusternia's strengths, classflex takes away from this is many ways. There are also valid balance concerns that should not be ignored that will become more prominent as time goes on and more people start flexing. That is what I express concern about. Not that it's going to end the game as we know it.
The amount of times I had to clarify to people 'No no no 'Lusternia' is only a name, it's not LUST-ernia' i was trying to introduce to the game.
Try ``loost-ER-nia'' the next time you pronounce it... and wield a weapon. That last bit helps in all my training seminars. <student> But I really don't want to query the database-- <Delphas> *BLAM* Delphas shoots the poor, zero level peasant in the face. <Delphas> By a show of hands, does anyone else here want to fuck around and jack off instead of listening to the words coming out of my mouth?
Whoever decided 100 fae was a reasonable guild task was mean. I can't even imagine actually getting the 200 needed for the next level of that task. I've died three different times just today trying to get this task done. (
Just stick with the easy-pickings until you build your confidence. It was never intended that you gather all at once, but over the course of a week or two. Nihilists have a similar practice (usually reserved for punishment since empowering demons is a *responsibility*), and we don't ever ask ``WTF?!? I told you to empower 200 demons just 15 minutes ago, and you've only managed 10! Worthless!!''.
Hang in there and you'll do it before you know it.
I don't understand what the point of Karma cursing is. Someone jumps me for no apparent reason on Prime, so hey, I can curse them. Except it will take me three times as much Karma to curse them as it will for them to lift it. How's that fair? I'm the one that got murdered.
And who doesn't just have 25 Karma at any given moment? I've got two blessings and I've got 80 Karma. He wouldn't even have the curse long enough to matter.
I love karma curses. I think I coasted from level 60 to 75 just by karma-cursing.
Little wonder our enemies hated The sight of the one sided hat They knew wherever they saw it Was not the place to be at. Because even if both sides had run out of bullets They had learned ... there was one left to fear The digger ... with the heart of the bushman A bayonet ... and a sunburnt left ear.
I...I don't think Glomdoring is toxic at all. Everyone has been super nice in character, and the few times we've had to go out of character for triggers/coding information, everyone's still just as nice. The only rude people I see come from Magnagora, to be honest.
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Nobody else is responsible for your fun in this game. We are all here on a volunteer basis for ourselves, so make it fun for yourself if you can. There are lots of areas for distraction in Lusternia so take a break from combat for a couple of days, and work on that aetherepic or cityepic, If you've completed both of those, try to code something that'd help your city out!
I have a lot more fun when I stopped trying to make the game meld to my expectations and instead melded my expectations around the game.
2015/12/09 23:54:29 - Pejat drained 2000000 power to raise Davos as a Vernal Ascendant.
You use 80,000,000 of your divine essence. You gain BeauteousThought as a supernumerary power.
The Inner Sea. I take commissions doe.
1. "To pay back for Ascendance" isnt about Glom ascending someone, it was about the True Ascendance where Glom switched on the very day with Xenthos puffing out his chest and making a big post proclaiming to the world. If this was still Old Mag, Glomdoring would be nothing but splinters at this point.
2. "Glomdoring is doomed" wasnt that a single man would destroy it, im not delusional. It was that Glom has next no members left or any real fighters and has the tendencies to turn allies and people away. Additionally the general atmosphere in it is just a toxic environment. The guilds consider themselves more independant associations rather than part of Glomdoring. I just didnt want to bother with attempting to 'appease' all anymore.
3. To the people that state they contacted me. Firstly Celina your first contact to me was insults and harassment, of course im going to ignore you. You're not known for your people skills. Lerad, I explained to you that Glomdoring needed to be punished and would be. I do believe the term I used and have been continously using is "All actions have consequences, and Glom will not get away without punishment".
Frankly this is all im going to say about this tiresome topic. Im not going to bother starting a 'post war' here, because there is no real victory in it. It is far more appealing to earn victories in the game. As I said to several from the start of my mission "Glomdoring had already lost", simply based on logic. You cant keep your elders upkept all the time, and you cant be around to always stop the fires and killing of Daughters. Basically I was (and likely might in the future) harvesting lumber until it equated to the cost of "An ascension", I made up to 40k in a bankaccount (was curious how high it would get) from sold lumber. You'd have to figure out how much an ascension costs.
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Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it.
No! Not at all. I don't even mind we fought. I even told people I totally get why you did, I probably would have done the same.
Edit: I'll point out that my comments were not meant to be about north vs south. It just gets old people bringing up that classflex is apocalyptic. This isn't the first few months of classflexing. We don't have to theorycraft about the effects of classflexing.
<student> But I really don't want to query the database--
<Delphas> *BLAM*
Delphas shoots the poor, zero level peasant in the face.
<Delphas> By a show of hands, does anyone else here want to fuck around and jack off instead of listening to the words coming out of my mouth?
> SHOUT is Renna around?
::get response::
> SHOUT Cool! Everyone set Ethereal and Glomdoring on fire.
Hang in there and you'll do it before you know it.
You'd be surprised. We're talking 4 years ago but effective. Better than a million tiny squabbles.
The sight of the one sided hat
They knew wherever they saw it
Was not the place to be at.
Because even if both sides had run out of bullets
They had learned ... there was one left to fear
The digger ... with the heart of the bushman
A bayonet ... and a sunburnt left ear.