Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
Haha, I mean you can still argumentative and pushy without calling something "retarded." I do it all the time.
I still disagree with you, and I don't understand how this proves any kind of point you've been attempting to make. Unless your argument has been that we should hand over as much information as possible to the mafia as early as possible. Your push for a lynch has put the town is a far more difficult place than it started, and has put the mafia in a great position. We tried to tell you, it's not a rubric you can follow, and in your attempt to follow the rubric you forced a series of role claims. In all the threads that you've been telling us to look up, nowhere does it say forcing out role claims on day 1 is a good idea.
If anything, this whole thing is an excellent demonstration of how context and variables are actually important things to consider. I told you, repeatedly, that there are ways to gain information that don't involve just straight up lynching people (which you took to mean town powers), and here we are, with a lot of information without lynching anyone-information we only got because we didn't lynch anyone.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
At this point, I think you're pretty convinced that any scenario that involves a lynch will somehow prove your theory as correct, so I'm not sure there's a point in arguing any further. What we do know is that appeasing your strategy forced us into a very awkward situation that Saran, and then myself, had to react to by giving up a lot of unnecessary information.
How that is beneficial, I admit I will never understand.
Thank you. Let's consider the context and variables then, and never again try to pretend that no-lynching is helpful to town.
I tried to be argumentative and pushy without being rude. People were bored. Now people are listening, instead of waiting for another means to get answers and hoping that somebody else finds answers for us.
The moderators can punish me for my inflammatory remarks (I hope they do, because they were). But nearly everything since Day 2 started really has been retarded. There is no other word for why you people think doing nothing is so great.
Mayor Steingrim, the Grand Schema says to you, "Well, as I recall you kinda leave a mark whereever you go."
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
We haven't been doing nothing, though. We have been open to a lynch for the entire day, just a lynch with some information, even if just suspicions or theories. We told you blind, random lynches could lead to bad things. It did, incidentally.
Synkarin did not visit anyone on night 1 as per Celina. He is likely a townie. Or possibly a power role who didn't use his power on night 1, but come on - everyone craves for information on the first night. Plus power is tempting. I'm still inclined to believe he is a townie.
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
2.) Lynching has to be done right instead of blindly voting people(w/c was @Celina's point)
I can see both sides of the argument being had here.
Also, with the way you've posted thus far, Celina could have used that to start pressuring a vote against you, however, she hasn't done that at all over the course of your ongoing argument with her - your passionate words notwithstanding. In fact, that she implied that had a reason to believe you're a townie in the first few pages after Night 2 gives me reason to believe that what she said about her actions on Night 1 are true.
Shoutout to @Saran, btw. I'd like to confirm the following: whenever you target someone, does your action/power count towards the number of actions attempted on a target?
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
Or, alternatively, Synkarin is one of the three mafia members (if we assume there are four) that did not attempt to carry out the kill.
I always thought that all mafia members would show up as "active" whenever they are watched at night. Kinda like the way it goes in Lusty's vengeance games.
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
I promise I will chill when town has actual, real information. Not power roles who might save the day, eventually.
Well, I wouldn't disregard the information on hand as unreal myself. But I guess that's just me. The banter going on mostly leans towards a repetition of points said before, too. It makes for an easier read moving forward if we can just avoid this, unless new points are made.
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
Also, @Celina, you mentioned a vision-dream thing? Is it alright for you to share the exact message to us? Would help clear things out regarding your second ability. Thanks.
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
Or, alternatively, Synkarin is one of the three mafia members (if we assume there are four) that did not attempt to carry out the kill.
I always thought that all mafia members would show up as "active" whenever they are watched at night. Kinda like the way it goes in Lusty's vengeance games.
-- In the past, the Mafia picks one person to carry out the kill. That person shows up as moving during the night while the others do not.
You're not allowed to quote PMs from the mod as falls in under rule 6. That includes any other night messages you get. You're free to paraphrase anything, but no direct quotes.
Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
Something seems off about the summaries made (by @Ayisdra) and others, and what was actually said in the thread. It might have just been my impression of events and Celina's confusion due to the message she recieved that are confusing me here.
What seems off about my summary, Enyalida? It was a summary of what I understood in reading the past 3-4 pages of the back and forth between the votes against Saran and the argument of Celina and Riluna. I even said that if it was wrong to correct me as then I misunderstood something of what happen.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
I'll clarify as much as I can. My vision message is vague, it named Riluna's role and that she protected someone. It did not say who was protected or from who, or whether it was me or not.
I am trained in stealth and can track targets, I can see who they target but not what they do.
I assumed that Riluna had protected me, because my power explicitly states I can't tell what the roles are, but the vision told me her role, and not the name of who was targeted. When Saran said I was targeted twice, I thought that confirmed that Riluna had protected me. It made sense to me, since no one died, Riluna was the protector, and I was targeted twice that I was the target of the mafia which is why I stated that's what happened.
As it turns out, it appears to be some sort of secret power (?) that was not initially released to me initially, I don't know the specifics beyond that.
I'll clarify as much as I can. My vision message is vague, it named Riluna's role and that she protected someone. It did not say who was protected or from who, or whether it was me or not.
I am trained in stealth and can track targets, I can see who they target but not what they do.
I assumed that Riluna had protected me, because my power explicitly states I can't tell what the roles are, but the vision told me her role, and not the name of who was targeted. When Saran said I was targeted twice, I thought that confirmed that Riluna had protected me. It made sense to me, since no one died, Riluna was the protector, and I was targeted twice that I was the target of the mafia which is why I stated that's what happened.
As it turns out, it appears to be some sort of secret power (?) that was not initially released to me initially, I don't know the specifics beyond that.
If this was actually true, you would have known I did not target you last night.
vote: Celina
Mayor Steingrim, the Grand Schema says to you, "Well, as I recall you kinda leave a mark whereever you go."
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
You have a habit of stating things with italics, as if it makes them factual. How would I have known you didn't target me based on what I said?
She is also voting for herself. Perhaps I'm a bit paranoid by this fact, but this seems like some power-requirement. Sure, there is nothing bad about voting for yourself, it just seems a bit odd even with votes starting to pile up on her.
It makes me feel like I am trying to express it because it is important. Take a look at what Celina actually said before I claimed, and what she is saying now.
@Celina as I said before, I don't care about your arguments. I'm not going to respond directly to them anymore. You're just going to keep defending yourself, because that is what you do. Everybody else can see for themselves.
Mayor Steingrim, the Grand Schema says to you, "Well, as I recall you kinda leave a mark whereever you go."
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
Lol ok. Just curious what your new mafia guru bullshit position will be after the lynch. Or maybe they'll just have to google that to.
I can unvote myself if you'd like. At this point, I'm most interested to see what spectacular nonsense Riluna will pull out of her add next. Hypothetically speaking, if everything I said is true, Riluna will at the very least prove she had no idea how to play this game.
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I always thought that all mafia members would show up as "active" whenever they are watched at night. Kinda like the way it goes in Lusty's vengeance games.
In the past, the Mafia picks one person to carry out the kill. That person shows up as moving during the night while the others do not.
You're not allowed to quote PMs from the mod as falls in under rule 6. That includes any other night messages you get. You're free to paraphrase anything, but no direct quotes.
She is also voting for herself. Perhaps I'm a bit paranoid by this fact, but this seems like some power-requirement. Sure, there is nothing bad about voting for yourself, it just seems a bit odd even with votes starting to pile up on her.