"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Even after I answered your question as to how I know I was jailed AND Sylandra substantiated my answer? And with only Lavinia's shaky guess that she couldn't go into more detail about without confusing herself? Wow, you must really want me gone.
How about this, Synkarin? Let's not waste the day's lynch on me and ruin the nice early lead that the town has built. Have the jailer jail me again tonight, that way I can't take any actions 'against' anyone. Or have an investigator target me. Day 3 is a decent enough lead for the investigator to out themselves and start delivering investigation results, as long as the Doctor is still undercover and able to protect them.
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For the record I was saying thank you for the compliment for my flavor text.
I neither confirm nor deny any of Tekora's claims! ;;)
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
So you got a message, you didn't say that you tried to act which is another thing I asked.
Also, the flipflopping, especially now since you were so intent on not letting Day 0 go without a lynch, your exaggerations of possible scenarios. Lots of things not adding up here. Lots of wifflewaffling.
I know this may be falling for an elaborate scheme by Tekora to use reverse psychology, but I actually believe her. I guess part of it is because I never saw her aggressiveness on day 1 as being particularly suspicious. I also think that if she did indeed get jailed it is much more likely that she may have been the target of an attack than her being the attacker.
Either way, we should give everyone a chance to speak up before we decide to lynch anybody.
Fine, I'll admit that I acted last night. Not willing to reveal my role yet, but I will say that it's something that isn't absolutely vital to have available every night, which is why I'm volunteering myself to be jailed again.
Incidentally, madame, you are asserting that this was a jailing rather than merely an escort accompanying you last night? Clarity is the soul of this little exercise in delayed justice we are experiencing.
I said to start with that considering all circumstances, I am 99% certain I was jailed. The remaining 1% would be that I was role blocked and not protected last night, which is fairly equal to the amount of confidence I have in Scenario 1 as I explained before being the case.
Then the trouble as I see it with your proposed scenario of 'lynch someone else and jail me again' is that if we do so, and you are innocent, then the usurpers know that you are innocent, and the logical course of action for that night is to attack no one, but gather information if they can on someone else, or use some other subtle skill in their repertoire of which there is no trace the next day. We logically assume that since another night passed with no death, you are the most likely culprit for mafia. We therefore execute you, and have lost a town member with no further information revealed save for that you were town, and anyone pushing for your execution today now also looks suspect. If you are instead a traitor, then either the same tactic is employed and the same underlying logic applied to imply you were instead town, or the other members have someone else make an attack, and the next morning you are able to attest that since someone died you cannot possibly be considered disloyal.
In other words, belaying your execution by one day gets us no substantial information unless there is some other way of corroborating your claims. I think the correct course here is to decide today whether you are to be trusted or executed, or barring that to use the time of both our doctor and investigators to see what can be turned up overnight. Free the jailor or escort to act on another party, and perhaps allow a lookout or similar role to find the doctor and investigator.
With no deaths revealing information, I've nothing to go on but speculation from binge watching some episodes of the show. Struggling to pick enough characters to fill 16 roles though, so still lots up in the air, plus I imagine Sylandra has mixed a few things up.
But I'm still surprised that there were no deaths, as aside from the English, from early episodes I can see at least two other potential roles that could have night kills, either as a lunatic or vigilante type roles. There's even potential for a third lunatic if a pagan from the 'Blood Forest' has snuck in to our masque. So my guess is Tekora is a vigilante or a lunatic which might explain the push for blood on Day 1. I'm leaning toward lunatic, but going to hold off on vote and see where things are in the morning.
Then the trouble as I see it with your proposed scenario of 'lynch someone else and jail me again' is that if we do so, and you are innocent, then the usurpers know that you are innocent, and the logical course of action for that night is to attack no one, but gather information if they can on someone else, or use some other subtle skill in their repertoire of which there is no trace the next day. We logically assume that since another night passed with no death, you are the most likely culprit for mafia. We therefore execute you, and have lost a town member with no further information revealed save for that you were town, and anyone pushing for your execution today now also looks suspect. If you are instead a traitor, then either the same tactic is employed and the same underlying logic applied to imply you were instead town, or the other members have someone else make an attack, and the next morning you are able to attest that since someone died you cannot possibly be considered disloyal.
In other words, belaying your execution by one day gets us no substantial information unless there is some other way of corroborating your claims. I think the correct course here is to decide today whether you are to be trusted or executed, or barring that to use the time of both our doctor and investigators to see what can be turned up overnight. Free the jailor or escort to act on another party, and perhaps allow a lookout or similar role to find the doctor and investigator.
Why would you want to find the Doctor? You never want to find the Doctor, you want them to stay anonymous.
I never said reveal the doctor, I said find. A lookout knowing who the doctor is does not put undue strain on the town's resources. In fact it could easily prevent that doctor from being executed.
Tekora is acting very strangely and I have to agree with her suspiciousness, but I'm more interested in waiting to see more of the Court comment or respond than apply additional pressure. Tekora seems to be panicking and not really reading what Luce is writing. If anything is peculiar with what Luce is saying, it is his relative insistence that the usurpers have some sort of information fishing available to them.
I have no reason to assume this to be evident or a certain reality. Is it something that lends itself heavily to the flavour of the theme?
All Luce is saying is a whole lot of words that boil down to 'lynch Tekora today'. Personally, I'm finding it hilarious that I'm the one being targeted for a lynch when I'm the only person who has offered ANY information on what happened during the night.
I never said jailing me would prove I'm innocent, you're putting words in my mouth. My goal is to get us to Day 3 with no dead townies. As for you and Luce stating that my goal is to tie up town resources, pray tell, do YOU have a better idea on who you would rather see jailed tonight?
If anything is peculiar with what Luce is saying, it is his relative insistence that the usurpers have some sort of information fishing available to them.
While it is not outside the realm of possibility for them to have a consigliere, my reference to them knowing that Tekora is or is not one of the usurpers is merely in reference to the fact that they know who one another are.
Honestly my preference for this situation is to find a better target and have her innocence corroboroated than to execute her out of hand. If she was roleblocked or jailed last night, then she has not had a chance to cause any real damage to begin with.
If Tekora is a true noble, then this situation is more or less ideal for the usurpers as all they must do is allow us to execute her and remain silent. Indeed, if I were a traitor and knew she was as well, I'd be adding pressure right now to deflect attention from myself.
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Sylandra, rules clarification. Does a modkill during the day end the day phase?
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. You mean if for whatever reason I chose to modvig someone from the game, would the dayphase end? No, I wasn't intending for it to. It's more a threat to ensure everyone behaves. I don't see why that should impact other people's gameplay. Should I modvig, the player would be killed instantly; I intended to reveal the dead party's information at the end of the dayphase, however, so that people don't get the information too early.
Which is to say, the fastest way to end the dayphase will always be lynching.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
FoS is general short hand for "Finger of Suspicion". It's a way of saying "I think what you just did/said is kind of scummy but I'm not quite ready to actually vote".
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Flattery will get you everywhere. :-*
But I'm still surprised that there were no deaths, as aside from the English, from early episodes I can see at least two other potential roles that could have night kills, either as a lunatic or vigilante type roles. There's even potential for a third lunatic if a pagan from the 'Blood Forest' has snuck in to our masque. So my guess is Tekora is a vigilante or a lunatic which might explain the push for blood on Day 1. I'm leaning toward lunatic, but going to hold off on vote and see where things are in the morning.
(past my bedtime here)
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. You mean if for whatever reason I chose to modvig someone from the game, would the dayphase end? No, I wasn't intending for it to. It's more a threat to ensure everyone behaves. I don't see why that should impact other people's gameplay. Should I modvig, the player would be killed instantly; I intended to reveal the dead party's information at the end of the dayphase, however, so that people don't get the information too early.
Which is to say, the fastest way to end the dayphase will always be lynching.