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  • RiviusRivius Your resident wolf puppy
    Xiel has them all collected on his site I believe.
  • PhoebusPhoebus tu fui, ego eris. Circumstances
    Rivius said:
    Xiel has them all collected on his site I believe.
    I can't use that site because of the colors. Bright text on black kills my eyes and gives me terrible headaches (all my colors in Lusternia are changed around for this reason). Regardless, it'd be nice to have the information readily available in-game, without having to depend on other people collecting them and figuring it out first.
  • It's also not comprehensive anymore, unfortunately.

  • Please add a line listing the mean height at weight for each race to the HELP <race> entries. Since we don't have a size attribute to go by anymore and all.
  • TremulaTremula Banished Quasiroyal
    I don't think there is an average anymore, and it's up to personal RP to dictate what size things should be. The only reason we think faeling should be short or igasho need to be huge at present is because we have memories of the stat system telling us they need to be. More diversity!
                          * * * WRACK AND ROLL AND DEATH AND PAIN * * *
                                         * * * LET'S FEEL THE FEAR OF DEATH AGAIN * * *
              * * * WE'LL KILL AND SLAUGHTER, EAT THE SLAIN * * *
      * * * IN RAVAGING WE'LL ENTERTAIN * * *

    Ixion tells you, "// I don't think anyone else had a clue, amazing form."
  • EnyalidaEnyalida Nasty Woman, Sockpuppeteer to the Gods
    That said, yes: can we have a better sense of what the 'average member of x race' looks like made more available for incoming players? It can be hard to write a coherent description when you have no context for X race, especially for some of the less common racial tropes. 
  • AeldraAeldra , using cake powered flight
    I believe that while there might be a faeling that's taller then an igasho, I don't think it's something that would be very common? I am pretty sure "common" size factor per race could be established and it would help immensely, for e. g. when I try to decide whether or not aeldra can perch on someone's shoulder, it's always trying to find the old size thing to have a rough idea how much taller they are then her for that not to look awkward.
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  • If ever faeling would start being taller than igasho, than I will make a two-eyed Krokani
  • XenthosXenthos Shadow Lord
    Arcanis said:
    If ever faeling would start being taller than igasho, than I will make a two-eyed Krokani
    One is established in lore and mechanics, the other is not.  You can never (mechanically) have a two-eyed krokani (or they would not be immune to eyepeck).  On the other hand, Demigods have mechanically had the ability to alter their size.  While the ability is gone now, that is only because size itself is gone.  RP-wise, Demigods can still have a mutable size if desired.
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  • edited October 2015
    Arcanis said:
    If ever faeling would start being taller than igasho, then I will make a two-eyed Krokani
    FTFY 

    Than != Then

    worst pet peeve ever
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  • edited October 2015
    I can't read. Shh.
  • Xenthos said:
    Arcanis said:
    If ever faeling would start being taller than igasho, than I will make a two-eyed Krokani
    One is established in lore and mechanics, the other is not.  You can never (mechanically) have a two-eyed krokani (or they would not be immune to eyepeck).  On the other hand, Demigods have mechanically had the ability to alter their size.  While the ability is gone now, that is only because size itself is gone.  RP-wise, Demigods can still have a mutable size if desired.

    Anything can be played to lore, even if it sounds corny or dumb. A Krokani illuminati that added another eye? A Krokani of human ancestry? All can be debated here and there, but in the end, it is all flexible, even if cringe worthy.
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  • XenthosXenthos Shadow Lord
    Some things cannot be RPed out, because they are contravened by mechanics. Krokani cannot have more eyes. Elfen cannot have four legs. Trill cannot have two heads. Etc, etc.

    Meanwhile, size changing is an established precedent. They are not at all similar.
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  • Just like dracnari are defined by the ability to breath fire and merians by the ability to breath water naturally, so are krokani defined by their singular eye. You can't just pull a lolhumanancestry whenever you feel like it.

    However, I believe a size precedent is in order for all non-demis.

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  • XenthosXenthos Shadow Lord
    Though there is also precedent for non-Demis to be able to flex a little bit (there were expand and shrink enchantments that allowed for a +-3 variation). However, that is nowhere near the flexibility afforded to Demis.

    I absolutely agree that we need a general size range provided for the races for new players, though- provide a range that takes into account the prior existence of shrink/expand enchantments and you give non-Demi players a lot of room to work with while also providing good guidelines.
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  • AeldraAeldra , using cake powered flight
    I would find it especially important as, historically as I gather, different race specialisations did have an impact on size as well. Like, as I heard, shadowsinger faelings would be even smaller then a regular faeling... same goes for merians in celest, etc.
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  • LuceLuce Fox Populi
    Daraius said:
    Wtb wax museum full of archetypal representations of every race and spec. Also the sculptures can talk and they give you a lore-based summary of their racial perks.
    WTB this area being pointed out to newbies as part of the tour, when choosing race.
  • I think Elostian tasked someone with making an anatomical museum of the races, there's a book about it.
  • TremulaTremula Banished Quasiroyal
    WTB @Daraius being curator of said museum.
                          * * * WRACK AND ROLL AND DEATH AND PAIN * * *
                                         * * * LET'S FEEL THE FEAR OF DEATH AGAIN * * *
              * * * WE'LL KILL AND SLAUGHTER, EAT THE SLAIN * * *
      * * * IN RAVAGING WE'LL ENTERTAIN * * *

    Ixion tells you, "// I don't think anyone else had a clue, amazing form."
  • DaraiusDaraius Shevat The juror's taco spot
    Deal, but I'll warn you right now you're going to be seeing a loooot more lobo newbs if I'm in charge of racial PR.
    I used to make cakes.

    Estarra the Eternal says, "Give Shevat the floor please."
  • EnyalidaEnyalida Nasty Woman, Sockpuppeteer to the Gods
    They all can be roleplayed, but as exceptions or oddities to a general rule. In other words a (non-demigod) faeling who is described as being 6 feet tall should not be shut down by other players - but it's reasonable to expect them to be surprised, reacting to it as the oddity that it is. 
  • Well, faelings should get a lot more leeway on size as they are the offspring of fae and elfen parentage. And there is a lot of diversity among the fae. So if your heritage is a squonk, or redcap, you will be bigger than a pixie/sprite descended faeling.

    FOR pposters who aren't steingrim:

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  • SylandraSylandra Join Queue for Mafia Games The Last Mafia Game
    "Kiss me, I'm Irish--I mean, half leprechaun."
    Daraius said:
    "Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
  • XenthosXenthos Shadow Lord
    That sure sounds like a trap to me.
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  • MoiMoi
    edited October 2015
    I don't even want the files to have a maximum. Just listing a "typical" size would be great.

    I ask because I forgot yesterday how big Krokani are supposed to be. Human sized? A foot taller? Huge? I have no idea!
  • RiviusRivius Your resident wolf puppy
    Why not include one's current race in honours alongside the 'demigod' designation? Eg. "male loboshigaru demigod"?
  • Then furrikin would be hitting on me since I'm tae'dae demigod
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