"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
If you break the rules this game, you don't get to be a drag queen next game.
Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
One thing that could be confirmed by @Celina at the moment, Vision's identity.
She said she has known since night two and that Vision would be able to act even after leaving the game. If Celina could confirm whether Vision is still in the game or if it is Enyalida that would also help.
And on the topic of visions, @Siam, yeah it gives what you said but it's only half an investigation, in this case powers only, not their side, the only way to infer a side is through the fluff bit.
For example, I imagine I would see a vision of Ermine's crew as scary, like... Jinx might have been being dragged through the facility in a cage or Ermine might be rattling their chains/trying to recruit Chimaera.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
I still don't understand why you haven't revealed Tremula's role
He's smart enough that he's not going to lie about it because he now knows you know, so it's not like it's going to be some big secret
Because it could look scummy and everyone's pretty trigger happy right now
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But if it looks scummy... maybe it's, iunno, scummy?
There is very little wiggle room at this point in the game! Everyone has claimed something, or has been assumed as something, except Tremula. Even without the vision, that looks kind of scummy.
So yes. I'm trigger happy and impatient and curious about everything. (
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
@Celina please confirm if you received alignments with the visions.
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
#bringShikariback
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I did not.
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Saran's behavior this day in particular has certainly been questionable. Since he doesn't get an alignment though it might just be your everyday town paranoia. He could genuinely be concerned about pre-lynching someone who could be town.
Did he vote Tarkenton, actually? -checks- Okay he did, but Tarkenton included Saran in his list of "verified" people. Interesting. I kind of feel it'd be too risky to list a fellow scum in a claim like that, because if Saran got lynched and came up scum, then we would all whirl on Tarkenton. Then again, there's an obvious appeal in trying to protect your homie. So...idk.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
#bringShikariback
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I won't lie though, if there's enough interest in lynching Saran I wouldn't be opposed. I'm impatient and he's been a bit shifty and at least something would be happening. :-w
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Incidentally, to keep things
interesting, fresh and engaging, I'm thinking of just outright
modvigging everyone who doesn't post at least once during the dayphase,
as long as the dayphase lasts longer than 48 hours. However, since this
rule wasn't part of the game from the beginning, I'd like to hear what
the players think of it. Anyone got any problems with this?
Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
If @Tremula hasn't responded by the time I wake up tomorrow (rl, which is tuesday for me but should give them most of monday) then I'll reveal even though I really don't want to because I don't want the day to end before they're back.
Though, the one thing that's interesting is that none of you are looking into the possibility that I'm town protecting a town. Tremula's night actions will help once they're able to talk about them, but yeah... if the two of us aren't scum, then who is?
Also @Sylandra, you've actually highlighted a reason for Tarkenton choosing who he chose. Ssaliss was effectively confirmed, Celina and I are both high profile in the game as well as opposing each other and have both already have claims out since day 2.
Claiming as he did and showing up scum would throw one of us in front of the lynch wagon next and the other would likely be leading it. Given how the game has gone so far, it would not be unreasonable to expect that Celina would gather the hoard first and lynch myself.
However, all of that aside. Sylandra did not block someone with a night kill last night, so why was there still no kill?
I think the fact that people have unvoted suggests that people are considering you are town protecting town, but it seems you ignored that little fact. You are also expecting us to take your word that he's town despite not sharing any information and everything pointing to the fact that he probably is scum. By your own admission, the vision even portrays him as scummy.
You're trying awfully hard to convince everyone that you are town, yet you continually hold information back, spout out misinformation (like 'none of you consider I'm town protecting town') and generally have just been wrong about things. The only reason you're still around is the fact that you did share your role (which even then, you had to be 'convinced' to do) and we haven't had any conflicting information to lynch you. Celina may lead the hoard to lynch you, but it's only because you've dug your own grave with your own actions.
I'm still curious who Azereus protected last night, that may be the reason we didn't see a kill, or maybe Ssaliss was attacked while jailing himself again. There's several possibilities here.
"'Cause the fighting don't stop till I walk in." -Synkarin's Lament.
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Maybe your vision didn't show you everything about Tremula? Maybe it only shows one skill, but not the other?
Maybe you're right and they chose not to lynch last night?
Maybe you're scum protecting another scum?
The only way we learn the definitive answer to any of these questions is by lynching.
I'm getting more and more bored with doing nothing. It would help if Tremula had posted more prior to today's accusation; as it stands, I didn't start playing until Day 2 and I still have more posts up here than she does. What do we know about her? She's human, which could mean any number of things. We know she took no action last night, because I blocked her. That is quite simply all that we know about Tremula this late in the game, and the lack of information regarding her looks strange even when you don't count the final important bit of information:
We also knowno one died last night.
Are we wrong to be suspicious of that? From all the powers that have been claimed so far, this would suggest one of three things: either Tremula is scum (probable), the scum targeted Ssaliss (unlikely), or the scum targeted no one at all (probable, except that the scum to village ratio can't be that inspiring from the scum perspective this late in the game). Lynching Tremula helps us answer that question, regardless. It puts us one step closer to figuring out who is still scum among us. Further, Saran is unable to explicitly state whether or not Tremula is aligned with the scum or not; he only didn't see her with a nightkill ability. That doesn't necessarily mean that Tremula is innocent.
Even with the promise of tomorrow, I'm inclined to put more pressure on certain people to speak up. Vote Tremula.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
@Synkarin no, the claim is potentially scummy given the context its in.
Also it is precisely situations like the last day with Azureus that are the reason I feel certain roles, even if already claimed, should withhold information.
As an example as I've said I checked Luce night three. Had Tarkenton attempted to claim that he had investigated Luce on the night I monitored him I would be able to call him out on it.
The possibility of this situation is removed if I claim first thing in the morning because if our info roles are claiming first and then the scum can role claim around those.
To answer @Kiradawea's question, I think one post per dayphase is a reasonable expectation. Given that it'd be a new rule, though, maybe not implement it until the next day? But would there be enough game left at that point to matter?
Also, in the interests of continued honesty, I did not use my power on anyone last night. No kill means either someone else had some protection going on, or perhaps confirms some other type of scum agenda.
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Did he vote Tarkenton, actually? -checks- Okay he did, but Tarkenton included Saran in his list of "verified" people. Interesting. I kind of feel it'd be too risky to list a fellow scum in a claim like that, because if Saran got lynched and came up scum, then we would all whirl on Tarkenton. Then again, there's an obvious appeal in trying to protect your homie. So...idk.
I wish Tremula would show up.
Incidentally, to keep things interesting, fresh and engaging, I'm thinking of just outright modvigging everyone who doesn't post at least once during the dayphase, as long as the dayphase lasts longer than 48 hours. However, since this rule wasn't part of the game from the beginning, I'd like to hear what the players think of it. Anyone got any problems with this?
Also it is precisely situations like the last day with Azureus that are the reason I feel certain roles, even if already claimed, should withhold information.
As an example as I've said I checked Luce night three. Had Tarkenton attempted to claim that he had investigated Luce on the night I monitored him I would be able to call him out on it.
The possibility of this situation is removed if I claim first thing in the morning because if our info roles are claiming first and then the scum can role claim around those.
Also, in the interests of continued honesty, I did not use my power on anyone last night. No kill means either someone else had some protection going on, or perhaps confirms some other type of scum agenda.