Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
Of for the love of baby jesus. Grudges don't die easy, do they.
So you believe it's totally rational to have a mafia power that gives visions to other mafia members, just making it super inconvenient for no real reason, because they can just talk about it during the night? And that, as scum, I would make this power known to the entire game without any prompting?
I guess it boils down to, why has no one died?
I've been willing to embrace the jailer theory because I don't think my roleblocker skills have been that successful! And I know we lost the protector. Unless we have a different style of mafia game, it's the only viable explanation for me regarding why no one has died every. Single. Night.
Remember Ssaliss has claimed being attacked one night, too. And with Tarkenton's skill revealed, I believe Tark used it on Ssaliss. All signs point to Ssaliss being town, for me.
You probably posted it earlier, but I can't remember... Who did you protect during the nights?
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Honestly - at this point, I'm saying we go with Tremula
He hasn't responded, even though he's had ample time to do so, and it simply just doesn't make sense that he's an investigator.
So that's my theory, I'm going with Tremula
Vote: Tremula
I think should he some how flip town as an investigator, that the vision giver should check out Sylandra or the kitsune bros (the brother seems fishy to me) and if he does flip scum - check out Saran.
Of for the love of baby jesus. Grudges don't die easy, do they.
So you believe it's totally rational to have a mafia power that gives visions to other mafia members, just making it super inconvenient for no real reason, because they can just talk about it during the night? And that, as scum, I would make this power known to the entire game without any prompting?
Really. Really.
Then provide a counter claim, you've literally said nothing here. You've disputed it but you've at no point actually given a potential reason that explains how things could have ended up this way.
You've not disputed anyone's power claims, you've not looked at the various action claims throughout the game to find holes or inconsistencies. You've not even attempted to show an alternative for how the game might have played out so far. The only thing you've really attempted in the last few posts is to get rid of the person most likely to be heavily responsible for the low death count in the game so far, the one person the mafia probably can't kill at night.
3rd target: NONE. I was away for the weekend and could not send my night action in time. I was blocked by Sylandra as well.
4th target: Tremula to Saran
You know what? You seem a bit scummy this time around. You keep putting off the lynch on Tremula and now you're attempting to deflect attention to myself and Celina.
FOS SARAN
Naw, wait.
UNVOTE
VOTE SARAN
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
#bringShikariback
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That's... kind of hilarious that I targeted you the night you did nothing. Gg, blocker skills.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Viravain, Lady of the Thorns shouts, "And You would seize Me? Fool! I am the Glomdoring! I am the Wyrd, and beneath the cloak of Night, the shadows of the Silent stir!"
And since Saran (not me) outed the vision-giver's identity, I have one important question aimed at his FoS at me.
If I wanted to block the vision giver, um, why wouldn't I just do it two nights in a row? :-?
It's primarily because
A) You still have a vote on Tremula and Synkarin is the only one on that list who actually has a verification through his power. Others have been posting but no one has joined the lynch train, nor really pushed it as much as you have.
and
The blocker power in a heavy power game is the most useful power to the scum. Blocking Tremula, if you knew who the vision player was, is a gamble but it does ensure that the tracker sees you do something to Tremula and Tremula not doing anything, on a night when no one dies.
If Tremula gets lynched, you'd night kill Celina next given Siam's tendency to give visions to her this could interrupt that night (another gamble) and getting rid of her tracking, which would turn attention to me and result in my lynching(this could be reversed my getting night killed, celina getting lynched).
The next night you'd kill one of the Siblings, since you seem to have read the wiki, you know what this means. Because of the cute v scary aspect, people might look to Ssaliss and lynch him.
If you manage to make it this far without vision checking you then you'd kill him this night, at which point, you've potentially won
the game if there is another living scum in the town.
If there isn't you probably are feeling like you can't win right now, hence the heavy push to lynch Tremula when they're not around to respond and potentially out you.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
Of for the love of baby jesus. Grudges don't die easy, do they.
So you believe it's totally rational to have a mafia power that gives visions to other mafia members, just making it super inconvenient for no real reason, because they can just talk about it during the night? And that, as scum, I would make this power known to the entire game without any prompting?
Really. Really.
Then provide a counter claim, you've literally said nothing here. You've disputed it but you've at no point actually given a potential reason that explains how things could have ended up this way.
You've not disputed anyone's power claims, you've not looked at the various action claims throughout the game to find holes or inconsistencies. You've not even attempted to show an alternative for how the game might have played out so far. The only thing you've really attempted in the last few posts is to get rid of the person most likely to be heavily responsible for the low death count in the game so far, the one person the mafia probably can't kill at night.
I said plenty, you're just deaf to reason. I've disputed your entire position with simple game logic. That I would have revealed to you the existence of a mafia vision role as a member of the mafia myself, risking myself to outright exposure should supposedly evil Siam ever be revealed by lynch, is just, at its very foundation, the dumbest thing you could actually believe. My original vision claim was even so vague that it actually made me look suspicious, which has been thoroughly noted as an equally stupid move by a member of the mafia. Yet here we are. Again.
Yet, because it fits your narrative (your narrative that has magically evolved again and again. Remember when it just HAD TO BE SYNKARIN working Celina? What happened to that?) Ssaliss who has openly stated he was going to protect himself indefinitely, is the one responsible for no deaths? How? Is the mafia illiterate? They just keep throwing themselves at him post claim and admission to keep protecting himself? There's plenty here you aren't looking at, you're just sending us down one rabbit hole after another.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
I said plenty, you're just deaf to reason. I've disputed your entire position with simple game logic. That I would have revealed to you the existence of a mafia vision role as a member of the mafia myself, risking myself to outright exposure should supposedly evil Siam ever be revealed by lynch, is just, at its very foundation, the dumbest thing you could actually believe. My original vision claim was even so vague that it actually made me look suspicious, which has been thoroughly noted as an equally stupid move by a member of the mafia. Yet here we are. Again.
Yet, because it fits your narrative (your narrative that has magically evolved again and again. Remember when it just HAD TO BE SYNKARIN working Celina? What happened to that?) Ssaliss who has openly stated he was going to protect himself indefinitely, is the one responsible for no deaths? How? Is the mafia illiterate? They just keep throwing themselves at him post claim and admission to keep protecting himself? There's plenty here you aren't looking at, you're just sending us down one rabbit hole after another.
I'M BACK, GIVE ME TIME TO WRITE UP MY RESPONSE, PLEASE!
((Also, I was attempting to access forums over the weekend, but my mobile was trying to make me sign in with my name and password, but then said my account was not authorised to have a password. So...yeah.))
And since I haven't received any negative feedback on the idea, I'm instating a strict 1 post per day minimum. If you fail to meet this quota, you're modvigged.
Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
3rd target: NONE. I was away for the weekend and could not send my night action in time. I was blocked by Sylandra as well.
4th target: Tremula to Saran
You know what? You seem a bit scummy this time around. You keep putting off the lynch on Tremula and now you're attempting to deflect attention to myself and Celina.
FOS SARAN
Naw, wait.
UNVOTE
VOTE SARAN
Yes, interesting. I'm putting of the lynch of an investigator. Even if I'm lying, there is the possibility that I'm correct.
As I mentioned to Sylandra in my last post, the only people that really have cause for concern about what Tremula has to say are scum. Tremula or I will likely get lynched today which, for me would verify that I am town and that I was truthful in my claim.
Which then means the scum have a reason to end the day before Tremula can speak, so they have the vain hope that Tremula's information won't get out and verified through a lynch.
Indeed, If I were scum I would have just said it immediately and let you convince yourselves to lynch them before they return.
Those wishing the day to end, those wishing for Tremula to not have the chance to fully claim, these are the people that are the most scummy to me. If the claimed night actions can fit that, then even better.
And since I haven't received any negative feedback on the idea, I'm instating a strict 1 post per day minimum. If you fail to meet this quota, you're modvigged.
Psst as Saran has so vocally pointed out I left my vote on Tremula.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
I said plenty, you're just deaf to reason. I've disputed your entire position with simple game logic. That I would have revealed to you the existence of a mafia vision role as a member of the mafia myself, risking myself to outright exposure should supposedly evil Siam ever be revealed by lynch, is just, at its very foundation, the dumbest thing you could actually believe. My original vision claim was even so vague that it actually made me look suspicious, which has been thoroughly noted as an equally stupid move by a member of the mafia. Yet here we are. Again.
Yet, because it fits your narrative (your narrative that has magically evolved again and again. Remember when it just HAD TO BE SYNKARIN working Celina? What happened to that?) Ssaliss who has openly stated he was going to protect himself indefinitely, is the one responsible for no deaths? How? Is the mafia illiterate? They just keep throwing themselves at him post claim and admission to keep protecting himself? There's plenty here you aren't looking at, you're just sending us down one rabbit hole after another.
The mafia I propose would have attempted twice, once either night one or two, and then again on night three using Tarkenton's power this would have reasonably allowed them to get around Ssaliss's power and kill him, the only reason this didn't work would be because Siam was blocked. Tarkenton's one shot is more valuable as a last ditch effort to ensure a necessary kill gets in to win the game. Night four they chose to attempt something other than killing.
Again, you are entirely defensive, you are rather aggressively arguing what I've said, yet not actually proposing an alternative narrative for the game.
Is it because you cannot come up with one?
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And I left my vote because I decided screw it I would stick by my convictions, and hopefully, this would put extra pressure on Saran (when info was withheld) and on Tremula to get back asap.
I was going stir crazy. I admit it. I stand by it. Game was getting stale.
I'm not afraid of being investigated because I've laid all my cards on the table. You know everything I know.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Modvigged means you're removed from the game, playing on the "vigilante" role, which can kill a character like the mafia, though the vigilante is always town (if only for the fact that if it isn't town, it's got a different name). Essentially, the moderator invokes vigilante power on a player. It's the typical punishment for breaking any of the rules in the game, but I'm extending it to go for those who don't play the game either.
Not that it's relevant, since Tremula did make a post. Welcome back.
Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
So first, I should thank @Saran for keeping me alive as long as he did, especially by pulling that dramatic reveal (though mine was planned to be a little more dramatic).
I'm Marie, and I'm one of the teachers here at the lab. I'm also a psychiatrist, studying and evaluating the chimaera to ensure they've been conditioned properly. I think I've done a pretty good job, honestly, because all of those people who report chimaera have returned AI that show a significant amount of abuse to the system. Since I have access to most everyone's files, I take the role of investigator. When my character has access to a computer, I can pull up the records of anyone in the game and discover their role and a bit of their backstory.
Now, I'm going to respond to different questions:
Q: "Why haven't you announced anything?????"
A: Because I'm the investigator and there could be an indefinite number of mafia (or cult, though I'm fairly certain at this point it will not come up), and I didn't think that conducive to my survival. I also am really bad at typing up these huge things, because I take ages and by the time that I finish illustrating all of my points, someone else has gone and brought about three new points that will invalidate one of my points and open up new questions to be answered. I feel comfortable doing it now because I've got the attention, so to speak.
Q: "Who visited Celina night one?!!!"
A: Hi, I'm the missing person from night one. I got her information because I had access to a computer. And to confirm this (since she's still alive):
@Celina, you are a chimaera named Lucius, and you're skilled in subterfuge and stealth. However, you've been bred for the purpose of tracking! (Hopefully this will confirm her as townie, too.) Now, that should be close enough to your own knowledge without copy+pasting (against the rules) that I can be validated as well.
Q: (not asked yet but) "What about other people?"
A: If we're counting correctly, night one I investigated Celina. Night two, I went to find food and had no access to a computer. Night three, the same virus that wonked Enyalida's profile was still effecting, and my investigation on Ssaliss (I think he's the self-jailor, memory's a bit fuzzy) was garbled but seemed to support his claim, and my last message to Kiradawea (to investigate Siam) was admittedly blocked.
Thank you, and if I missed anything, please net me know.
Really, how often can I say this? No, I'm not claiming I'm solely responsible for there being no kills. No, I don't think they have targetted me all four nights (even though four nights of no deaths are really puzzling). All I'm saying is that they have definitely targetted me at least once so far, likely twice (the first night). Any more than that is pure guesswork. It's not like I can explain how there have been no deaths so far...
And since I haven't received any negative feedback on the idea, I'm instating a strict 1 post per day minimum. If you fail to meet this quota, you're modvigged.
Psst as Saran has so vocally pointed out I left my vote on Tremula.
HI TREMULA! Welcome back.
This game moves so fast, I keep missing things.. I was sure you ended up removing your vote from Tremula, and didn't see you put it back. Fixed now though.
Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
I don't know the reason, this is a weird game. I don't invent narratives just because you want one. I don't aim to appease irrational people with fabricated rationale. I've disproven your entire theory, regardless of my lack of narrative on demand, and your inability to dispute what I've stated regarding self incrimination is just further proof of you shaping narratives and not being worth the effort engaging with and ultimately a detriment to the town. It's Riluna 2.0.
I don't know the reason, this is a weird game. I don't invent narratives just because you want one. I don't aim to appease irrational people with fabricated rationale. I've disproven your entire theory, regardless of my lack of narrative on demand, and your inability to dispute what I've stated regarding self incrimination is just further proof of you shaping narratives and not being worth the effort engaging with and ultimately a detriment to the town. It's Riluna 2.0.
I prefer Celina 2.0 cause you know... Both times involved you.
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And that's about it!
If I wanted to block the vision giver, um, why wouldn't I just do it two nights in a row? :-?
Ixion tells you, "// I don't think anyone else had a clue, amazing form."
Tremula: (3) Celina, Synkarin, Sylandra
Celina: (1) Saran
Saran: (1) Siam
With 11 around, it's 6 to lynch.
And since I haven't received any negative feedback on the idea, I'm instating a strict 1 post per day minimum. If you fail to meet this quota, you're modvigged.
HI TREMULA! Welcome back.
I was going stir crazy. I admit it. I stand by it. Game was getting stale.
I'm not afraid of being investigated because I've laid all my cards on the table. You know everything I know.
Not that it's relevant, since Tremula did make a post. Welcome back.
Ixion tells you, "// I don't think anyone else had a clue, amazing form."